Hi Chris,

I just wanted to give a different perspective here too. I am an
application repackager rather than a software developer, and so I see
this from the point of view of large corporates who may want to deploy
your software automatically, i.e. your customers!

It's fine to have a requirement for a serial number to be available at
setup-time, but please don't do anything to ensure it is entered
manually, companies need to do silent installs so must be able to supply
the serial number on the command line or via an MST.

Also, companies will frequently use the same serial number for all of
their installations, and manage the actual number of licenses that they
have separately, so it would be best that you don't do any kind of
authentication of the number of uses that each license has had, just
that it is a valid code.

I know that may sound like an invitation to software pirates to reuse
your license codes, but there's really no way for an app deployed with
say SMS to assign a different license code for each machine. Not ideal
for you I know, but I just wanted to point out this scenario and make
sure you are aware of it and consider it in your decision.

Also, whilst I can understand Eitan's recommendation below from the view
of securing your software, I really wouldn't suggest you use several
Custom Actions and try to hide what you're up to within them. From the
corporate perspective this is a real pain, and you could just be asked
to do another version of your MSI with this disabled, or to provide a
work-around, such as a Property that can be set to disable it.

What I think is best is that rather than doing all of your licensing
checks during the install, you just provide the ability to set a license
code during the install, and then you check whether or not the app is
licensed on the machine when it is launched. If it is not then you can
ask for a license key to be entered - though assuming the user won't
have admin rights, that will restrict you to per-user licenses being
entered at launch-time.

Anyway, sorry to go on, and I know this is a total contrast to what most
of the software developers on this list would like to see done, but I
just thought that this other view made it even more useful to post!

Lastly, and on a different note, I'd just like to add to Eitan's mention
of DTF. My understanding is (and I could be wrong, in fact I'd like to
be wrong so if I am please could someone say so!) that using DTF
introduces a dependency into your installation, and whilst it's fine for
me to do that as a corporate admin as I can just deploy DTF to all of
the target machines before any apps that I package with DTF CAs, I'm not
sure that you will want to require all of your customers to do the same.

Cheers,
James

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eitan
Behar
Sent: 15 August 2008 11:42
To: 'General discussion for Windows Installer XML toolset.'
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] controlling who installs a package

Hi Chris,

First at all, there is no way you can really protect an MSI based setup
from being installed. MSI is in an open format, therefore, anybody can
easily(?) open it and understand what constraints you set in order to
limit the installation process.

Saying that, if your users are not too technically oriented, you can
create a Custom Action (unmanaged C++ is more difficult to decipher than
DTF's C#, don't use VB script). This custom action will read a certain
property, let's say SERIAL_NUMBER, and will return Success or Failure
according to any algorithm you implement there. 

In general terms, the more complex the process is, the more difficult to
break. You can set several functions call to confuse people try to
understand the process. Also, don't cancel the setup right after the
serial number check, but do something in the middle, so looking at the
log file it'll be difficult to understand which CA is in charge.

These are just guidelines for a very basic security process. If you need
something pro, you better look at some ready-made solutions (Aladdin,
Flex LM, etc)

Take into account that most setups over there asking for serial numbers
are either not MSI based, or very simple to crack.

Hope this helps you to find your way.

Bst rgrds,

Eitan

 

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mole,
Chris
Sent: Friday, August 15, 2008 11:01 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: [WiX-users] controlling who installs a package

Hi,

What's the best way to control who is able to install a package?  Can I
make the package in such a way that it can only be installed by people
that know some password or serial number?

Thanks,
Chris

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