That article focuses on the case where the leaders of the project become detached from the users of the project. It really doesn't matter if the project is open source or commercial, the results are the same. Users quit using the project. For commercial entities that usually ends up affecting the bottom line (the article refers to this as "get developers fired"). For open source projects the project ends up with fewer users or ends up forking and going in different directions.
To bring the point back home, I can't currently think of any cases where this is a problem for the WiX toolset. There are plenty of things that need to be fixed/addressed in the WiX toolset but I don't think the leaders of the project or the users of the project disagree here. <smile/> The two cases I can think of where there has been some contention: 1. FragmentRef. Fragment ref was a WiX v2 concept that over time I found wasn't really necessary. What I found was everyone was putting FragementRefs everywhere. In WiX v3 we removed the FragmentRef concept and some people complained. The complaints were exactly what I was looking for because it helped us find the remaining places where references were not being automatically generated by the WiX toolset. Now that those are fixed, functionality that was not necessary was removed for a better system... I think. 2. Component Rules. These things have been the bane of my existence since the end of my internship on the Windows Installer team back in 1998. I documented the rules and sent them around to all of the developers back then. I was incredulous that they could be real but as well all know now they are. The Component Rules make auto-generating content in the core toolset very, very difficult because so much management infrastructure has to be in place to make sure the Component GUIDs remain stable. Otherwise, a product will end up unpatchable or worse. IMHO it is not acceptable for the WiX toolset to autogenerate content that makes one's packages to be unpatchable. I know there are some tools out there that solve some of the problems with Component GUID generation but they aren't perfect. Still working on the "perfect solution" here since being partially wrong has very negative consequences. In any case, I think the "leaders of the project" and the "users of the project" are still mostly aligned... since we all just want a working solution. I'm curious if there are any topics that people feel there is a disconnect between the "users of the project" and the "leaders of the project"? -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Friedrich Dominicus Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2008 23:19 To: Christopher Painter Cc: Bob Arnson; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [WiX-users] WIX 3.0 release date Christopher Painter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hmmm... > > > > >http://www.productbeautiful.com/2008/05/02/why-product-management-is-open-sources-fatal-flaw/ Nice read, I can sympathize with both sides. Howerver the users are not willing to pay and so why should I care as developer. I do as I like, the latter is the "right" answer. And haveing a product manager should help? I doubt it very much, how comes that Office 2007 was auch a plight, I bet MS surely have some very clever Product managers, how comes that Vista reputation is that bad, hardly the result of clever product management ... Regards Friedrich ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by: Microsoft Defy all challenges. Microsoft(R) Visual Studio 2008. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/vse0120000070mrt/direct/01/ _______________________________________________ WiX-users mailing list WiX-users@lists.sourceforge.net https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/wix-users
