I'm a bit suprised that it is doing this comparison for every file.  Is it 
just to be safe?  Could we add a switch that allowed it to do slightly 
less safe comparisons (i.e. I can guarantee that if two files have the 
same date, size, and name, that their contents are the same (or at least 
I'm willing to take that risk)).

Wouldn't that speed up comparisons considerably?

Kelly




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05/15/2008 08:19 PM

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I talked to Peter.  For a product with ~2,000 - 3,000 files 10 minutes is 
reasonable.  Pyro is diffing all of the files in your product looking for 
different ones and that takes time.  
 
I noticed that you are using Includes all over the place.  Instead, you 
could use Fragments and get improvements in the compile steps and also do 
filtering at the Fragment level during patching.
 
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10 minutes running pyro, 2 minutes running the 'light' command line that 
builds the original msi's. 

Were you able to get the makefile, or do you want me to paste the command 
lines into an email for you? 

Kelly 



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One more question:  can you give me an idea of the time spent building MSI 
vs. building MSP?  Basically, I’m looking for a bit more details about 
what “long time” means.  <smile/> 
  
I’m not the patching expert but Peter is back from vacation and I’ll make 
sure he gets this thread tonight. 
  
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Sorry, I was braindead last night and it didn't even occur to me that 
knowing the version and what I'm doing might be useful information :( 

0. tried that - didn't seem to tell me much of anything. 
1. 3.0.3419 - I'll try a newer build today. 
2. pyro Update1\Build\USA\Patch.wixmsp -out Update1\Build\USA\Patch.msp -t 
mgalfa Update1\Build\USA\DiffRTM.wixmst 
  (entire makefile is attached) 
3. all files are local 

other info: 
running Vista x64 Business on a quad-core machine with 4gb RAM and 
mirrored HDDs using hardware RAID. 
not much else going on while building (I've been giving it the full 
machine). 

Patch.wxs file, Product.wxs file, .wxi's, and makefile attached.  The 
wixproj contains the RTM folder's contents.  The Update1 folder mentioned 
in the makefile is nearly identical, with only differences being in 
content and the definitions in the defines.wxi (also attached here). 


Any recommendations would be greatly appreciated - and if there's anything 
I can do to help repro / debug, I'd be happy to do so, assuming it's 
within my capabilities or relatively close to them. 
Kelly 

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0.  I assume you’ve tried passing the “-v” switch for verbose?  (I’m not 
sure there is much wired up to it). 
 
1.  What version of WiX v3 are you using? 
 
2.  What is the command line you’re passing pyro? 
 
3.  Are all of your MSIs and files local (not on a network share)? 
 
 
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kelly Leahy
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When using pyro to build our msp's, it takes a very long time to build 
(approximately 5 times as long as building our original installer).  While 
this still isn't that long, it's very frustrating when we're trying to 
build and test our installs! 

Am I missing something easy that will make the builds of our patches run 
much faster?  What's actually going on during the 'pyro' processing?  Is 
it the file compares that could be taking that much time?  BTW, the patch 
in question ends up only being about 14K in size, and there's only 1 file 
out of about 960 that is different, and that file is very small (several 
K).  The two installs that are being compared are around 80MB in size when 
built into the MSIs, and are about 150MB uncompressed, I think. 

Is there any way to tell the pyro tool to tell me what steps are taking 
the most time so that I can try to understand if there's some 
optimizations we can do to improve it? 

Kelly 

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