http://johnmcfadyen.spaces.live.com/
2008/5/15 Holmgren Mathias <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> > Don't blame the tools as there are plenty of people out there using
> these tools and making them work seemlessly and quickly on a day to day
> basis.
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> Well, you can't just disregard the large majority of people who are
> struggling a lot with this. And you can't disregard the "developer
> perspective", because developers are the people that have to deal with this.
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> Sure, one part of the story is about expectations and the learning curve of
> installation. Before building an installation package, you expect it to be
> pretty easy, like a couple of days work. Then when you start doing it you
> find out that the level of investment necessary to complete a working real
> world installer is not 10 but maybe 100 times greater than what you
> expected, or more (yes, for real, I'm not making this up). And we are
> talking very experienced people here, not rookie devs.
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> Having to invest your time so heavily to get so little tangible result back
> is a shock to most people. And when all the bumps, twists and turns of the
> technology are added on top of that learning process there will be
> frustration.
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> Now, I'm not much for nursing cry baby mentality either. It will get you
> nowhere. But I do feel that there is a case to be made here about not
> putting up with things that are overburdening. This is the other part of the
> story.
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> If the tools can be improved to make installation simpler, why settle for
> less?
>
> Or are installer technology and the tools already as good as they can ever
> become?
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> No. Identify the stuff that can be made easier with better tools. Reduce
> some of the burden of that complexity you are referring to and streamline
> the more common stories to ease the learning curve. That's what should be
> done.
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> > http://john.mcfadyen.spaces.live.com
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> Domain lookup of that comes up blank. Do you have another link? I sure
> could use some info on those undocumented features.
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>
> /Mathias
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