That seems a bit long, but if you measured it... Either way, as you say, it's 
not a WIX problem. The original post was betting that the creators of WIX 
(Microsoft employees mostly) had not used it to create complex installations. I 
was pointing out the error of that. Office-2007 is clearly a significant and 
complex install process. (Whether it *should* be that complex is an entirely 
different matter and not relevant to the context of the original thread).

Over the last 2 decades I've used just about everything available for setup and 
installation of software. Even at its current "unstable state" and lack of 
documentation Wix V3.0 beats them all hands down. The classic programmer model 
(compiler/linker, etc...) and Votive projects for support in VS for modularized 
projects alongside the application code is a simple and subtle difference from 
everything else. That subtle difference though brings benefits and advantages 
that simply cannot be dreamed of with other tools. Modularization and 
encapsulation etc... This allows developers to create installation wixlib 
libraries for their small pieces of a larger puzzle. It also allows unit 
testing of installs! Developers can create their wixlib and a separate MSI 
project to test it with to validate they got all the right pieces and parts 
installed correctly. But since the unit test MSI is actually installing the 
component in question it can also install a unit test application to test the 
component itself **AS it will be installed on the end user machine**. This is 
something that has a dramatic impact on the quality of code developed and 
released. (Probably not something that was on the design goals for WIX but a 
really great side benefit!)

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of DEÁK JAHN, Gábor
Sent: Monday, October 01, 2007 5:41 AM
To: WiX-users
Subject: [WiX-users] Some STUPID Limitations in WiX

On Wed, 26 Sep 2007 07:52:35 +1200, Steve Maillet wrote:

Steve,

> You'd lose that bet! Microsoft Office 2007 installation is built with 
> WIX.

It's not directly related to WiX but something rather strange happened to me 
the other day. On a computer where MS Office is not welcome, we had to install 
Outlook for three minutes, just for the time it takes for Thunderbird to pick 
up all previous correspondence and settings, then remove Outlook again for 
good. Granted, the computer was rather low on memory (128 MB, more has been 
added since but was unavailable at the time of the operation), so clearly not 
capable of running Office even if the owner wanted it, but we only wanted to 
install, not to use. Clearing every single checkbox but Outlook in a customized 
setup resulted in 45 minutes (not an exaggeration, measured) of installation. 
What's even stranger, uninstallation (removing about 10 MB worth of files) took 
the very same amount of time.

Bye,
   Gábor

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