I think one of the reasons why Windows Installer does not have lots of fancy
actions is because they are not generally related to installation and hence
the support for Custom Actions.  You cannot include all the possible actions
as there are so many types of software and so many configuration/changes
required, that it is better to leave them to the developer to write custom
actions for their needs.

Now for .NET Custom Actions, I think it will be cool to have support for
that, but at the same time, I think vbScript and Jscript are very easy to
use and learn compared to C++, in case someone does not want to spend time
on C++.  Besides, if you know Object Oriented Programming, like C#, learning
C++ is not that difficult especially if it is just for Custom Actions.  It
may take a bit extra time for you to write a DLL in the beginning, but once
it is done, adding more functions to it is very easy.  There are so many
tutorials out there that you can learn from.

I am not a C++ programmer by any means and most of my coding has been in C#
and Java so I understand where Dhaval is coming from.  But I had to write
custom actions in C++ as it was not an option at several places I worked at.
So if you like being a setup developer for Windows, learning C++ will
definitely help you in the longer run.

Now one must avoid using Custom Actions unless it is really required and is
something that Windows Installer cannot do.  But can you avoid it or not
depends on the software you are writing setup for, I have seen a lot of
products with more than 50 Custom Actions and all of them doing something
that Windows Installer cannot do.  Once you start working on complex
software setup, things get messy very easily and the best way to handle
those Custom Actions is to write Custom Action dll in C++.

Just my two cents.

Thanks

Danish Waheed



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Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 11:44 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# .dll

One other concern in making custom actions in C# (or anything else) is
that as Rob regularly observes, custom actions are very difficult to get
right - especially when considering installation failure (rollback) and
appropriate uninstall operation. Speaking for myself, I try to avoid
them whenever possible. In fact I think the only custom actions I
currently have in any of the installations I have generated relate to
the verification at installation time of a customer entered license key.

Many people seem to look at custom actions as a way to do things that
aren't supported by Microsoft Installer itself. While true, it is also
often true that there is a reason why Microsoft Installer doesn't
currently contain built-in support for that specific action.

Regards,
Richard

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Patel
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2007 10:45 AM
To: Rob Mensching
Cc: Joe Kaplan; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] C# .dll


"Folks like me," meaning people who have minuscule experience
programming in VBScript or C++. I pretty much started learning to
program in C# back in 2002, graduated last year, and am currently
working as a C#/ASP.NET developer. Of course I could embark on a journey
to learn C++, but I think the rest of the world is moving to .NET,
especially with the advent of C# 3.0 (LINQ), CLR 3.5, etc. I rather
spend time on exploring new features of C# 3.0 and CLR 3.5.

I am still a WIX newbie by any means - I hope I didn't offend you by
saying 'people like me' :) In essence what I was trying to say is that
folks who excel in C# will be able to exploit WIX's features to a
greater extent. Plus I think if this happens, many developers will start
adopting WIX right away. I still have a few colleagues who don't want to
use just because they can't pass values read from a WIX User dialog to a
C# .dll. One (hypothetical) example most people would put this
functionality to use is writing their own custom SQL connection strings
using the SqlConnectionStringBuilder. 


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