> > I've asked many times for people to send me information that > their company uses the WiX toolset to build their MSI > packages so I can post it on the web site. Nobody has been > willing to send in their name.
We use WiX to build our msi packages and we're willing to have our company and/or product name on the WiX web site. Let me know if what you need (if anything). John Vottero MVP Systems, Inc. http://www.mvpsi.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of > Justin Rockwood > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 17:26 > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Justin Rockwood'; 'Mike > Dimmick'; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Convincing customer to use WiX > toolset - is itenterprise ready? > > 1. Good idea. We should probably do that on our home page. > 2. I can get to wix.sourceforge.net just fine. Maybe > SourceForge was down for a minute? If you keep having > problems getting to it, let us know. > > Justin > > -----Original Message----- > From: Jacek Blaszczynski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 5:23 PM > To: 'Justin Rockwood'; 'Mike Dimmick'; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Convincing customer to use WiX > toolset - is itenterprise ready? > > Hello Justin! > > Thnx for this list of references it is really very helpfull to me. > Personally I am not worried for WiX stability or robustness > and I used it > for all my installation packages created during last year. > Furthermore, I am > a strong advocate of WiX among all my customers. > > However, I would strongly recommend to fix 2 small things which create > problems for coders trying to convince their customers to use WiX: > > 1. Provide official list of most prominent installer packages > created with > WiX - it tells actually everything. > 2. Provide nice WiX home page linked via sourceforge.net > project page - > currently wix.sourceforge.net points to nothing and it may be > bad "www card" > for the package. > > Jacek > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Justin Rockwood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 1:16 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'Mike Dimmick'; > wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Convincing customer to use WiX toolset - is > itenterprise ready? > > Here are some of the Microsoft products and groups that use > WiX for their > installations: > > * Office 2007 > * Office Server 2007 > * Windows SharePoint Server > * SQL Server 2005 > * Visual Studio > * Windows Defender > > Additionally, there are several non-Microsoft products that > use WiX. The > biggest one that comes to mind is MySQL. > > There are lots more, but I can't remember off the top of my > head. WiX has > become the de-facto installation technology within Microsoft > and all of the > major product groups use it for their installations. If you > or your client > are worried about the stability, robustness, etc. don't be. > The fact that > some of the largest software products in the world use WiX should be > testament enough that it's enterprise ready. > > Now, having said that, it doesn't mean that WiX is complete > by any means. > There is still lots of active development that goes on in the > 3.0 version > (which is still beta). Also, although there's a Visual Studio > development > experience, Votive still lacks a lot of the nice GUI > designers that you'll > find in Wise or InstallShield. There are some 3rd party > designers for WiX > files also available. And yes, sadly our documentation is not > up to snuff > yet. > > Let us know if you have any other questions. > > Justin > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacek > Blaszczynski > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 2:58 PM > To: 'Mike Dimmick'; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Convincing customer to use WiX toolset - is > itenterprise ready? > > Hello! > > Thnx for replies - they are very helpful. > > Can someone from MSFT WiX developers confirm which enterprise > grade product > installers are currently created with help of WiX package? > > Rgrds > > Jacek > > -----Original Message----- > From: Mike Dimmick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Monday, November 06, 2006 9:48 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: RE: [WiX-users] Convincing customer to use WiX toolset - is > itenterprise ready? > > I know that Microsoft use WiX for at least some parts of the > SQL Server > 2005, Office 2007 and Exchange Server 2007 installers. > > Version 2.0.x is considered the stable version. It does get > bugfixes, but no > major new development. Version 3.0.x is considered the > unstable development > version. The versions at > http://sourceforge.net/project/showfiles.php?group_id=105970 > of both are > considered particularly stable; there are point releases > (approximately > weekly) at http://wix.sourceforge.net/releases/ (when it works). > > Most people want to download the binaries or the Votive MSI, > not the sources > package. It's self-contained - no other tools are necessary, > not even the > Windows Installer SDK. Votive is the GUI, which is a Visual Studio > integration package. The documentation is in the 'doc' folder of the > binaries package as a chm file. Documentation is currently a > weak area - the > WiX.chm file gives the syntax, but not really much in the way > of semantics. > There's a tutorial at http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/. WiX > gives mostly > direct access to the Windows Installer tables, so the SDK > documentation is > often the best source for understanding what's going on. I > also find Phil > Wilson's book "The Definitive Guide to Windows Installer" > useful, although > it may be helpful if you've had some experience with Visual Studio's > deployment projects before reading it. You should probably > also read Rob > Mensching's blog at http://blogs.msdn.com/robmen/. > > To see how the default user interface looks during an > install, get the UI > sample linked from http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/lesson2.php > (http://www.tramontana.co.hu/wix/download.php?file=samplewixui .zip&type=appl > ication/zip). This uses the WixUI-Mondo user interface. > However, WiX is a > full Windows Installer tool, and can create any UI that the > developer can > think of and that the Windows Installer runtime will support. > If you want to > do something that Windows Installer cannot support (um, like all the > Microsoft applications listed above!) then you need to create > an external UI > handler program, but that is actually not very common. > > The documentation at > http://wix.sourceforge.net/manual-wix2/wix_index.htm is > for WiX v2.0, and is a little out of date - I'm not sure when > it was last > generated. It's basically the same information as in the HTML > Help file. > > -- > Mike Dimmick > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jacek > Blaszczynski > Sent: 06 November 2006 10:51 > To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net > Subject: [WiX-users] Convincing customer to use WiX toolset - is > itenterprise ready? > > Hello! > > I am in process of trying to convince customer who looks for > enterprise > grade InstallShield installation package improvements. I have > proposed to > replace it with WiX based installer and pointed him to WiX > sourceforge.net > site and got a very fast answer with several doubts: > > 1. " .... The sourceforge site indicates this is still in > beta, so it is > probally not ready for use for a commercial project which we need to > distribute to enterprise customers. ... " > 2. " .... I have downloaded the Wix package to take a look, > but I could not > find any documentation for it, and it does not appear to be a complete > package. ... " > 3. " .... If I could find a working example of it to see how the user > interface looks during an install I might consider using it, > but I would > perfer either InstallShield or Wise. ... " > > Obviosuly I could respond to all this and other serius doubts > raised by > customer myself but I thought that this process may be of > interest to WiX > community and I may receive good support in finding arguments > in favor of > WiX. > > The most important thing is to show enterprise level > installation packages > created with WiX - please point me to most prominent > installation packages > created using WiX toolset which at the best should be > available for download > and testing. > > Please indicate as well: > > 1) links to the latest but still complete packages (i.e. not requiring > hunting for dependencies, docs or WiX tools) working out of > box - I almost > always had a lot problems using packages downloaded from sourceforge. > > 2) links to authoritative sites describing WiX package > > 3) links to most recent documetation available online. > > Regards > > Jacek > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------- > ----------- > Using Tomcat but need to do more? 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