Ok, thanks..
 
I give it a weekend to think about it ;-) and will see what to do; there are more things involved than just the agreement ant the time it might take for these discussions.
For example the my own time limit for certain projects :-)
 
Albert


Van: Rob Mensching [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Verzonden: vrijdag 7 juli 2006 17:32
Aan: Albert van Peppen; [email protected]
Onderwerp: RE: [WiX-users] Assignment agreement and updates and/or enhancements

1.  Once you signed an assignment agreement it is now possible for your changes (bug fixes/enhancements) to be added to the WiX toolset.

 

2.  When you submit the changes to wix-devs, there will be discussion about the changes there.  In general, I would encourage you to have the discussion before writing the change because often the discussion completely changes the solution.  If the discussion ends (sometimes it's as short as, "Oh, yeah, good catch") in the positive, I will pick up the patch and get it applied to the WiX toolset.

 

3.  My speed of applying changes varies wildly based on the amount of work I have to do in a week and how well written the change is.  If I get a patch that is up to date and applies, builds, and works cleanly then it rarely takes me more than a week.  I spend pretty much every Tuesday night working on the WiX toolset, so most changes happen then.

 

4.  I would love to have the problem where 40 people are sending in fixes/enhancements.  We're not even close to that problem right now so I'm not worrying about it.  <smile/>

 

5.  Again, good fixes should be able to go in at least every other week.  There were a couple cases where fregro had to shame me because I was a couple months behind but gentle reminders take care of that.  Bad fixes or fixes that I have to do a lot of work to integrate will take *much* *much* longer to get in.

 

6.  WiX v2 is pretty much all locked down.  You'd have to find a crashing bug that has no good workaround or corrupts data for us to take changes there pretty much.  WiX v3 is a lot more opened up.  However, Derek has been suggesting that we seriously consider not adding significant amounts of code to the core WiX toolset and instead focus on the layers above the core (like extensions).  I have to agree with him.  That doesn't mean if there isn't a really good addition to the core toolset that we won't take it but if you're looking for things to add, I wouldn't suggest starting there.

 

7.  Beyond all that, I highly encourage you to start discussions on the wix-devs mailing list before implementing lots of new features.  People are usually much more relaxed about discussing new ideas/alternatives when there hasn't been a significant amount investment in a particular solution.  <smile/>

 


From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert van Peppen
Sent: Friday, July 07, 2006 2:33 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: [WiX-users] Assignment agreement and updates and/or enhancements

 

Hi,

 

I have a question about what you can do with a signed assignment agreement ..

 

If i do sign the agreement, what does this mean then?
- I can submit bugfixes?
- I can submit enhancements?

 

Ok, but then what does happen? Somebody needs to test these bugfixes/enhancements and they are to be put in the build.
Who does this and, more important, how long will that take? I mean all you guys are so busy with your daily jobs and the other development in WiX, i can imagine that there is little time to spare for this extra work.
Suppose you have 40 people a week sending in stuff, then suppose you need one hour per bugfix/enhancment for implementing in the latest build/testing (suppose this is an average time) then you can put a person on this as a day job!

 

So how are you guys handling this, if i may ask?

 

This because i am more than willing to submit some code/samples/fixes etc. but when i do it means that it is something i already use and would like it to be in the next release (or at least in the not so far future <wink/> ).

 

Same for Wix-2 and Wix-3; should a enhancement in Wix-2 also be available in Wix-3 (and vise versa)?

 

Greetings,

 


Albert van Peppen
Senior System Engineer
Insad Grafisch b.v.

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