Albert - this is great feedback.  Here's some tips that might help you with
using WiX more easily.

Although I'm still not recommending WiX 3.0 in production environments, you
can use the WiX 3.0 version of WixCop and it should quickly update your
authoring to the latest 3.0 schema (if not - it's a bug).  That would be a
quick and easy way to test out WiX 3.0 from time to time and hopefully when
it's ready for production use you can quickly convert all your authoring to
the new schema easily.

Tallow has options to convert .rc files to wix authoring (but Heat does not
yet have the capability).  You might try running this on the rc files the
first time, then maintaining them in the wix authoring afterwards.

Derek

-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Albert van
Peppen
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2006 1:13 AM
To: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Subject: Re: [WiX-users] Wix Versions

 
Hi,

I am currently building a set of installers (all look like each other,
with only a few changes, that's why includes and defines are so great in
WiX ;-) ).
I did start with Wix-3 but realizing I need to deploy in 2006 I switched
to Wix-2, although I like to test for Wix-2 and Wix-3.
But after several builds of Wix-3 (I get the latest release whenever
available) It was no longer possible to compile my wxs sources without
significant changes for both Wix-2 and Wix-3.

When someone has a tool, XSLT or something else I would like to test my
installers vor both Wix-2 and Wix-3 but since I am building inside a
production environment I don't have the time to maintain 2 versions of
my wxs sources.

As for Votive; I've tried and tried but deceided that it was too much
work to do anything in Votive due to (persistent?) bugs. And as
mentioned above, I don't have the time to expiriment on what is wrong (I
did take a peek and saw several points for which I, or my collegue, has
some fixes)
I think Votive is nice to start a simple project, but due to the lack of
a resource editor (among others) I consider it rather useless (sorry for
that).
It would be nice if it had the possibility to use the default resource
editor of VS and a conversion function to convert RC data to Wix UI
format.
What great is in Votive is the tight integration with SS and
solution/project support, although it might be even nicer if you can add
yout CA DLL-projects to the same solution as where your Votive project
is. (Maybe this is already possible, I havent had time to look at this
myself)

I hope this helps...

Albert van Peppen

PS. Keep up the great work!!

-----Oorspronkelijk bericht-----
Van: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Namens Frederik Carlier
Verzonden: dinsdag 13 juni 2006 19:47
Aan: wix-users@lists.sourceforge.net
Onderwerp: [WiX-users] Wix Versions

[This message is BCC'd to wix-devs for those who are not subscribed to
wix-users, but I think it is worth keeping the discussion on wix-users
only]

Hi,

Text quoted from Derek Cicerone ("Re: [WiX-users] Localized version of
License.rtf"):
> The other option is to move to WiX 3.0.  Work on the core of 3.0 is
very
> near completion, however, I'm still nervous about groups using 3.0
that
> are
> shipping anytime in 2006.  It's not a matter of us churning the schema
so
> much anymore as just a general issue of 3.0 needing some bake time to 
> ensure the major bugs are fleshed out.

I'd like to take this comment as a starting point to have a discussion
about the versions of WiX. About 10 days ago, I sent out an e-mail
asking people about experiences with the latest weekly builds to decide
if they can be pushed to SourceForge. 

Only a single person replied. I take this that many, many people are
very happy with the version of WiX 2.0 they have installed and that
makes me conclude that WiX 2.0 is pretty stable.
The fact that some pretty big software ships with setups made with WiX
only confirms that.
Exceptions are the "add-ons": the CA's have their know limitations and
Votive and WixUI do pop up with enhancements on a regular basis).
[It would be interesting to find out which builds of v2.0 people are
using - maybe we should do a poll one day :)]

And, work on Wix 3.0 seems to have advanced quite a bit and can show off
with some compelling and working features. Quite often, the response is
"this works better in v3.0, we won't be porting back the change,
though".
I get the impression that Wix 3.0 is really worth trying out - at an
early "beta" stage, let's say.

That, thus, leads me to believe that v2.0 is finished and rather stable.
So, maybe it is about time to come out with that and start thinking
about talking in terms of "release candidates" or "final" versions?

All this would result in v2.0's stability being confirmed and the vast
improvements in v3.0 being acknowledged, so that the adventurous people
can star playing with v3.0 (so that it gets more attention, and that the
major bugs can be fleshed out)...

Of course, that's just my opinion, but I would love to hear feedback on
this.

Frederik.


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