Den tors 21 dec. 2023 12:03João Valverde <j...@v6e.pt> skrev:

>
> On 20/12/23 23:20, Anders Broman wrote:
> > Hi,
> > To me it is a useful feature to be able to easily build .deb packages
> > and make repos to easily update and maintain wireshark across servers.
> > This is a feature I vote for us to keep regardless of any opinion on
> > how Debian build their packages. Maybe a Debian mailing list is a
> > better place to discuss their build system?
>
> I don't know what that has anything to do with what I said below but
> that is totally fine. I'm not against a Debian package. I'm against
> mirroring Debian in this project. I note you already asked me twice how
> the package could be made better, I answered both times (IMO) and you
> never replied back.
>
> And what I'm saying is that I find it convenient to have the script and
> that I would like us to keep them. As for how to improve the scripts I did
> not intend to work on them myself. Sorry if you felt I should have
> acknowledged in any way.
>

Best regards
Anders

>
>
> > Just my 2 cents
> > Anders
> >
> > Den ons 20 dec. 2023 23:49João Valverde <j...@v6e.pt> skrev:
> >
> >
> >
> >     On 20/12/23 22:35, Roland Knall wrote:
> >     >
> >     >> Am 20.12.2023 um 22:43 schrieb João Valverde <j...@v6e.pt>:
> >     >>
> >     >> 
> >     >>
> >     >>> On 20/12/23 21:21, Roland Knall wrote:
> >     >>>
> >     >>>>> Am 20.12.2023 um 22:02 schrieb João Valverde <j...@v6e.pt>:
> >     >>>> 
> >     >>>>
> >     >>>>> On 20/12/23 20:52, Roland Knall wrote:
> >     >>>>>
> >     >>>>>
> >     >>>>> So people can link to our libraries to write other projets?
> >     And expect it to work reliably? That is news to me. I have made
> >     this question many times over the years but I guess I was not
> >     worthy of a clear answer until now.
> >     >>>>>
> >     >>> I am not saying they should do it or that I appreciate it
> >     happening. All I am saying is that it happens and is happening and
> >     we did not put a stop to it in time. Should they expect it to be
> >     reliable? Of course not as I answered also in other threads on
> >     this matter. But at the same time I see no point in having them
> >     hit a wall face on, rather work in such cases where we know about
> >     it, to ensure them moving to a saner approach.
> >     >> What?! I'm back to confused... So you don't like the situation,
> >     you say. Here's a thought.. maybe if Debian didn't publish system
> >     libraries in our name with these stupid symbol lists then people
> >     wouldn't get the crazy idea they could use these libraries that
> >     were published for this exact purpose and build their own software
> >     on top of it and expect it to work reliable and not break every
> >     other release, like most other non-Wireshark Debian libraries.
> >     >>
> >     >> I wonder what could be done about that. I guess Debian would
> >     get that clue pretty darn quick if we weren't mirroring their
> >     broken setup in our repository, thereby sanctioning it.
> >     >>
> >     >> I don't know, call me crazy. Or did I misunderstand again? Sure
> >     seems complicated to get my head around this for such a simple
> >     topic as is software release and distribution.
> >     > Just a thought, libvirt was not created by debian but RedHat so
> >     the state of debian packaging has nothing to do with them. Debians
> >     package is merely moving their approach onto Debian, but the
> >     decision to implement libvirts plugin in such a way had been done
> >     by RedHats folks.
> >
> >     And what such way is that?! I don't even know why libvirt keeps
> >     coming
> >     up in this discussion. They wrote a dissector plugin. That's
> >     great. Good
> >     for them. I don't upstream many of my plugins into Wireshark either.
> >     This is something so banal that I am honestly confused why libvirt
> >     keeps
> >     coming up as a big boogaloo in this discussion.
> >
> >     I ask again in all sincerity, because I could be misunderstanding,
> >     what
> >     is the difficulty created by the libvirt plugin and what does that
> >     have
> >     to do with Debian packaging?
> >
> >
> >     >>
> >
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