On 12 September 2011 15:44, Adrian Borucki <gento...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On 12 September 2011 02:17, SII <dante.ash...@thesii.org> wrote: > >> I thought D-Bus was only good for outright notification and limited >> control? > > > D-Bus is good not only for control and notification but also transmitting > data. Its key advantages are good encapsulation and speed (it uses binary > protocol). > > >> If everything works as planned, significant modification will have to be >> done...not only making controls of the application usable to Wintermute, but >> also removing the little things that don't really work very well within a >> natural language enviroment, like titlebars and buttons... >> > > One thing bothers me here: how much should we limit these "old" methods of > window management? Imagine that somebody frequently changes application > windows (e.g. Chromium and Kopete), > In the case of Kopete (or any IM program) the change is fairly simple; you won't have to provide a command, I am rather hoping Wintermute can be made smart enough to recognize current activity and manage windows as needed. > I think it is not convenient to say (or write) command every time when you > want to change window. > Trust me, we won't. That would be a major annoyance! > And I think that people are rather used to mouse-centred solutions than > keyboard ones (of course keyboard is also able to carry such tasks). > Providing everything goes as planned, neither the mouse nor keyboard would be used! :D Of course, the keyboard would be a fallback, and the mouse would have limited use (not every application can be put under Winty's control; like the GIMP, for instance) > > And one note about that is we will probably have to change behaviour of WM > (e.g. KWin). Because tweaking WM can be expansive we will probably have to > stick with one. Maybe we could use a tiling window manager (no decorations, > automatic management) but then we focus on keyboard and as I said people are > used to mouse. > I thought KWin could do tiling? We'd be looking at fully automatic management, including opening, maximizing, minimizing and closing. > > >> >> >> -Dante >> >> >> On 11 September 2011 00:28, Jacky Alcine <jacky.alc...@thesii.org> wrote: >> >>> Sweet, Phill. Having an introspection is always good. We would be trying >>> to have a plugin that communicated to Wintermute and Chrome by means of >>> D-Bus. D-bus is Wintermutes needle into the veins of the system... >>> >>> >>> On Friday, September 9, 2011, Phill Whiteside <phi...@thesii.org> wrote: >>> > ** CORRECTION** for UBUNTU, not just Lubuntu :) >>> > >>> > On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 3:16 AM, Phill Whiteside <phi...@thesii.org> >>> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Of course, I *could* always ask Fabien for his views? Oh... Fabien... >>> He's the guy who deals with the Chromium bugs via Lubuntu & gets releases >>> out in a couple of hours. He's one of the Chromium Developers and comes >>> across as a really nice guy. Nothing ventured, nothing gained :) >>> >> Regards, >>> >> Phill. >>> >> >>> >> On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:35 AM, SII <dante.ash...@thesii.org> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> We'd still have to do some major mods to get Winty to fit it into >>> it's own DE. (yes, working on the design, give me a couple more days) >>> >>> -Dante >>> >>> >>> >>> On 6 September 2011 20:18, Jacky Alcine <jacky.alc...@thesii.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Wouldn't have to totally modify Chromium, we'd have to take >>> advantage of NPAPI (ie: search up Chromify-OSD in the Chrome Store). We >>> could bind it to interpret whatever it can from Flash objects (some objects >>> could be linked to RDF data, but I haven't seen it done). >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Sep 2, 2011 at 6:34 AM, SII <dante.ash...@thesii.org> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> OK, all of you know we're working on a 'closed' environment to make >>> things simpler for Wintermute; This means control of functions/applications >>> as well as versions. >>> >>>>> The trouble is, how do we deal with the web? >>> >>>>> I'm not a web dev; so I'm not sure about a lot of things when it >>> comes to web-browsing for a machine. For instance, Flash objects will be >>> opaque to Wintermute; it only makes sense to humans. Same with video >>> regardless of format. >>> >>>>> Perhaps a modified version of Chromium? >>> >>>>> Thoughts/problems/etc? >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> -- >>> >>>> Jacky Alcine >>> >>>> Blog <http://jackyalcine.co.cc/> | Launchpad < >>> https://launchpad.net/~jackyalcine> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~wintermute-devel >>> >>> Post to : wintermute-devel@lists.launchpad.net >>> >>> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~wintermute-devel >>> >>> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> Jacky Alcine >>> Blog <http://jackyalcine.co.cc/> | >>> Launchpad<https://launchpad.net/~jackyalcine> >>> >>> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~wintermute-devel >> Post to : wintermute-devel@lists.launchpad.net >> Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~wintermute-devel >> More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp >> >> > -- -Danté Ashton Vi Veri Veniversum Vivus Vici Sent from Ubuntu
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