James Hawkins wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 1:05 PM, Austin English <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 2, 2008 at 10:08 AM, Bryan Haskins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>> > I'm more interested in a direct pulseaudio gateway for Wine... since by
>> > application sound control is the biggest thing here for most people....
>> wine
>> > is treated as one big audio blob. Pulse sees it as one thing. In effect,
>> > wine handles it's own audio (by talking with ALSA or OSS) then passes that
>> > through to the outside sound server... which in most cases would simply be
>> > ALSA or OSS itself, but in this case it gets passed to ALSA/OSS and
>> through
>> > this talks to pulse. I call that pretty messy when we could just directly
>> > talk to pulse audio (easily, too) and have by applications control. Pulse
>> is
>> > going to be in pretty much every distro soon. For a 1.0 release, no one
>> > wants to go out of their way to accomodate the shortcomings of our audio
>> > control.
>> >
>> > Even directly sending the blobof output to pulse directly at first would
>> > simplify things. I know this means yet asnother audio output method to
>> > maintain, and for various reasons many are against it. But this is similar
>> > to us needing to improve ALSA support rather recently. Pulseaudio does
>> > directly support ALSA, but it's a bit demanding on how it need to work to
>> be
>> > perfect.
>> >
>> > ALSA, Pulseaudio, and OSS are probably the big three we need support for.
>> > Pulse is a drop in replacement for things like Network Sound, and way
>> easier
>> > to configure and use.
>> >
>> > Sorry for expanding the topic so much.
>> >
>>
>> This has been brought up before, and it's quite a bit of work. You
>> can't just simply forward everything to pulse call it a day, you'd
>> need to implement a full structure/drivers/etc., which would require
>> quite a bit of time/work and is likely outside of the scope of 1.0.
>>
>
> And I believe Julliard rejected the idea of adding a pulseaudio driver.
Nope! He isn't against a pulseaudio driver. He is against yet another
broken and half implemented driver for the desktop sound system that
happens to be en vogue at the moment.
I think he would love to see a clean, full implemented pulseaudio
driver; presented in a nice easy review-able patch series which cleans
up the wineaudio driver mess en passant.
bye
michael
