On 02/11/11 21:48, Ryan Lane wrote:
> On Tue, Oct 25, 2011 at 1:43 PM, Platonides <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Ryan Lane wrote:
>>> https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page
>>>
>>> Just a suggestion ;)
>>>
>>> - Ryan



>> 1) This is the first time it is mentioned in this mailing list.
> 
> It isn't the first time labs has been. I was suggesting labs, not the
> console. I was replying to Chad, and he has seen the console, so he
> likely understood what I meant perfectly well.

As someone who tested
http://nova-controller.tesla.usability.wikimedia.org/ it was quite a
shock to find it out in this way.

>> 1b) Not even mentioned in the Server Admin Log.
> 
> Meh. I don't log every single thing I do. It's in the git log for the
> puppet repo, at minimum.

Is this is the way we publish things now? As git logs? :)


>> 2) It has a funny concept of "you have an account"
> 
> In what way? I'm giving out accounts to people slowly, over time. It's
> in kind of closed beta mode right now. Basically, if you ask for an
> account, you get one.

If the user is not in Special:ListUsers, which kind of user is it?
I guess it should have been developers "can get an account by poking Ryan"


>> 3) Public IPs are private
> 
> This is the way that OpenStack Nova works. If a public IP hasn't been
> assigned to the instance yet, then the private IP is also considered
> the public IP. bastion.wmflabs.org, for instance has a legitimate
> public IP, with a legitimate public DNS entry.

Last week, I didn't know there was such server (in fact, it seems to
have been launched _after_ I sent that mail).
*If* you have an account on labsconsole.wikimedia.org, *and* you go to
https://labsconsole.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:NovaAddress *and* you
know what a bastion host is, then you may figure it out.

Note that my first attempt was to try creating a ssh tunnel through
gerrit.wikimedia.org


>> 4) Instances don't seem to be on wmf dns, despite statements of "ssh
>> <nameofinstance>" and "adding wmflabs domain in DNS"
> 
> That is not true. I'm running powerdns on virt1.wikimedia.org with an
> LDAP backend.
>
> All instances are in DNS when they are created, automatically. That is
> private DNS, though. Instance "test" would be "test.pmtpa.wmflabs".
> It's possible to SSH from a bastion host to all private hosts.

It turns out you registered wmflabs.org
I had been trying things like foo.wmflabs.wikimedia.org or foo.wmflabs


>> 5) Reading the git instructions make me feel sick
> 
> Well, let's give you an account, and you can fix it.

By blanking the page? :)


>> 6) The RSA key (dc:e9:68:7b:99:1b:27:d0:f9:fd:ce:6a:2e:bf:92:e1?) is not
>> listed
> 
> RSA key for what? Why would it need to be listed anywhere? Maybe
> listing the RSA keys for hosts with public IPs is a good idea...

For gerrit, which is everything i could connect to.
It is shown on https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#settings,ssh-keys though,
so you can take it out.


>> 7) Why is there a unicorn ?
>>
> 
> Because this is the place for magic to happen.
> 
> - Ryan

/me waits for the magic to happen...

So far, it still doesn't seem useful.



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