That's an excellent pointer.

You've raised what I think is the key question for them.

Insofar as the webhost allows third parties (other orgs, or individuals) to
create projects <https://www.zooniverse.org/lab>, I think they might well
face an issue here - the content that the "creators" upload is not
necessarily published "by or on behalf of" the host.  The OSB says that
"content that is user-generated content in relation to a service is not to
be regarded as provider content in relation to that service".  The
*uploader* might be able to say that *their *project benefits from the
Sched 1 "publisher content" exemption, but that might be harder for the
host. (I think of this like Inception, or Matryoshka dolls)

As an aside, I wonder if SNPedia <https://www.snpedia.com/> might be in
trouble, too.  And maybe Justgiving.

Phil

On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 12:42, Richard Nevell <
richard.nev...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:

> Would Zooniverse <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zooniverse> potentially
> be caught up in it? It is a citizen science website, and has UGC, eg:
> comments and discussion here:
> https://www.zooniverse.org/projects/artem-dot-reshetnikov/saint-george-on-a-bike/talk/5049/2900955
>
> As I understand it, the comments are very much in response to datasets
> from the content provider - and are one way in which people contribute to
> the crowdsourcing - so perhaps it would be exempt? But since the point of
> the website is to encourage interactions between a community and datasets
> maybe it's not a clear cut case.
>
> On Thu, 18 May 2023 at 10:23, Phil Bradley-Schmieg <pbrad...@wikimedia.org>
> wrote:
>
>> Hello, hive mind - with all this talk of whether our projects (even
>> Wiktionary!) should be caught by the UK OSB, I was hoping to crowdsource an
>> answer to the question: who else might be unfortunate bycatch for this
>> ill-scoped "online safety" law?
>> I'll set out the key definition below, and hopefully you'll have some
>> ideas.  I'll start the ball rolling with *OpenStreetMap* and
>> *FixMyStreet*...
>>
>> For context: we're hoping to build support for an additional exemption
>> for services *"provided for the purpose of indexing, manipulation,
>> discussion and/or making available of content in the public interest,
>> including but not limited to historical, academic, artistic, educational,
>> encyclopaedic, journalistic, and/or statistical content"*.  It'd be
>> helpful to have other examples of good projects that would benefit from
>> being spared the OSB's requirements, not least all the red tape that it
>> requires!
>>
>> *Scope of the OSB **(ignoring parts dedicated to porn sites - and
>> glossing over a couple of smaller details, such as how combination services
>> are treated):*
>>
>> a. Applies to any “User-to-user service” and “search service” that "has
>> links with the UK" (e.g. UK users) and isn't exempt.
>>
>> b. A U2U service "means an internet service by means of which content
>> that is generated directly on the service by a user of the service, or
>> uploaded to or shared on the service by a user of the service, may be
>> encountered by another user, or other users, of the service (...) it does
>> not matter if content is actually shared with another user or users as long
>> as a service has a functionality that allows such sharing".  It also "does
>> not matter what proportion of content on a service is" UGC.
>>
>> c. A search service is "an internet service that is, or includes, a
>> search engine", that is run by the provider of that site (rather than just
>> embedding Google Search into your own), but "does not include a service
>> which enables a person to search just one website or database."
>>
>> *Exemptions are set out in Schedule 1.  These include:*
>>
>> 1. Services where the UGC is limited to
>>
>>    - emails, or SMS/MMS;
>>    - one-to-one live aural communications;
>>    - comments or reviews relating to the provider's own content;
>>    - sharing of such comments or reviews (about a provider's own
>>    content) on a different internet service;
>>    - services limiting user expression to like/dislikes buttons, emojis,
>>    yes/no voting, or rating/scoring;
>>
>> (but the exemptions above do NOT apply if regulated provider pornographic
>> content is published or displayed on the service)
>>
>> "Provider content" is "content published on a service by the provider of
>> the service or by a person acting on behalf of the provider (including
>> where the publication of the content is effected or controlled by means of
>> software or an automated tool or algorithm applied by the provider or by a
>> person acting on behalf of the provider)."
>> So that would include, say, guest posters on your own blog, or columnists
>> on the Daily Mail website, but is unlikely to include WMF projects (since
>> contributors aren't acting "on behalf of" WMF).
>>
>> 2.  Intranets and search engines that are run internally by *businesses.*
>>
>> 3. Services provided by UK public bodies or foreign sovereign powers
>> (except for childcare services, which have their own narrower exemption).
>>
>> 4. Certain UK-regulated (e.g. Ofsted-regulated) education/childcare
>> providers.
>>
>> Thanks in advance!
>>
>> *Phil Bradley-Schmieg* (he/him)
>> Lead Counsel
>> Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/>
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