Thank you very much for this Chris. It's very useful to hear things from
your perspective as a long standing member of the community, and a member
of one of the working groups.

So far the take up for an-person conversation on the movement strategy has
been very low. I think we would need to schedule something in May for it to
be of value, so perhaps I could ask people to let me know by *Monday 15th
April *if you are interested?

In the meantime the survey isn't yet live, but I'll circulate a link to it
once it is.

All best
Lucy

On Tue, 2 Apr 2019 at 15:58, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello all,
>
> As someone serving on one of the strategy working groups, I just wanted to
> encourage you all to take part in this.
>
> This strategy process is really the first time that the Wikimedia movement
> has sat down to think about who it is, what it is doing, why, and how to be
> structured and resourced to do it. If you have any views on this then
> please do take part, in whatever way. I know with about 90 scoping
> questions from 9 different groups contained in over 100 pages of document
> it's easy to be baffled about where to start. However, many of those
> questions overlap to some extent and a thoughtful conversation about any
> one question might yield important insights for any of them.
>
> Some misconceptions I have heard about the process so far, and the
> realities behind them:
> ** The strategy process won't change anything
> Not true! The strategy process will recommend significant changes. Even
> the least radical options the working groups are considering would be the
> most significant structural changes to the Wikimedia movement, ever.
> ** The WMF has already worked out what it wants to do and the process is a
> figleaf
> Not true! I was a bit worried about this too when the process started. But
> having met and spoken to the people involved, I'm confident the opposite is
> true. The WMF is approaching this in a very open way and has literally no
> preconceptions as an organisation. When Katherine Maher spoke to the Roles
> & Responsibilities group in October, one of her questions for us was
> "Should there still be a WMF?" Given that the WMF has the most potential to
> be changed by the strategy process (because it's the biggest and most
> complex body already), I feel this is a very bold step.
> ** The WMF won't agree/deliver the recommendations
> The WMF is certainly heavily committed to this process, including
> investing a huge amount of senior staff and Board time (not to mention
> money) in creating it and seeing it through. It would be odd if the WMF
> then just went "nah, sorry, don't agree". Even if they are tempted to, the
> best way to avoid this is for the working groups to come up with
> compelling, well-evidenced recommendations - with your help
> ** The outcomes will be imposed on everyone else by the WMF without any
> consultation (NB, this is the logical opposite of the previous one)
>  The strategy process is just entering a significant round of consultation
> (hence Lucy's email). So if you are worried about lack of consultation,
> please take part in the consultation as far as you're able to!   Everyone
> in the working groups is keen to get feedback. Then the question of who
> decides on which recommendations and how to implement them remains very
> open. I have certainly heard no assumptions that the WMF will make the
> decisions and everyone else will somehow fall in line (I think because
> everyone involves feels that is not the WMF's place in the movement at all).
> ** The strategy process will never end
> It's certainly a slow-moving process and that causes a number of
> frustrations. However, at the Wikimedia summit there was a clear timeline
> presented (draft recommendations in time for Wikimania, followed by another
> round of feedback, followed by final recommendations in the Autumn...)
> which felt achievable, if very intense to get there. After that, the
> challenge is implementing the recommendations. It certainly feels a bit
> like rolling an endless strategy rock up a hill, but actually we are
> getting on for halfway up.
>
> I hope that's useful, and please do respond to Lucy's call for input, or
> just read and comment on the scoping document summaries on Meta!
>
> Chris
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 4:34 PM Lucy Crompton-Reid <
> lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Dear all
>>
>> As many of you will be aware, in 2017 the Wikimedia movement set out a
>> new strategic direction, which is that *By 2030, Wikimedia will become
>> the essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge, and anyone
>> who shares our vision will be able to join us**.*
>>
>> Since July 2018, working groups made up of staff and volunteers from
>> across the global Wikimedia movement have been working together to identify
>> key guiding questions within nine thematic areas relevant to the movement.
>> These were published last week in the form of *Scoping Documents
>> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Strategy/Wikimedia_movement/2018-20/Participate>.*
>>
>> There are three main ways of participating in the next phase of the
>> movement strategy process, and responding to the questions posed by the
>> working groups. These are as follows:
>>
>> 1. Contribute to on-wiki discussions through the talk pages on each of
>> the nine thematic areas (by following the link to the scoping documents
>> above)
>> 2. Respond to the survey, which will be circulated in April (on here, and
>> no doubt in other places/mailing lists)
>> 3. Participate in a UK discussion, either in person or online
>>
>> As the Strategy Liaison Co-ordinator for the UK, I would like to gauge
>> interest in holding an in-person community conversation about this phase of
>> the movement strategy. Please could you let me know if you would like to
>> attend an event of this kind, and if so what would make it easier for you
>> to do so - for example in terms of the location, time of day, time of week
>> etc. I'd also like to hear from people who would be unlikely to attend an
>> in-person meeting but could join some kind of conference call or hangout.
>> Please feel free to email me directly rather than responding to the whole
>> group, just for the sake of people's inboxes.
>>
>> With many thanks and best wishes
>> Lucy
>>
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