The fact that recent changes and watchlists are not working is certainly an
issue as it hinders the website's ability to function as a discussion forum
and it makes maintenance and dealing with spam much harder. And for anyone
who uses them to see what's going on and stay in touch it does look oddly
quiet. But that's not the sole purpose of the wiki and the pages are still
readable so people can find out about the charity's work which is an
important role.

For volunteers who use wikis day-in day-out it's obviously frustrating to
have the aspect you're most familiar with not work, but I don't think it
can be attributed to perceptions about the Wikimedia experience of senior
WMUK people. Amongst the board and staff there is a range of experience
within and without Wikimedia and in various parts of the movement. That
diversity in experience is a strength rather than a weakness.

Richard Nevell (on sabbatical)

On Mon, 7 Jan 2019 at 20:49, Harry Mitchell <hjmw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The Wikimedia UK wiki used to see a lot of activity. It was never
> coherently organised, but the staff and volunteers who were running
> projects used it as a sort of filing cabinet for documentation of events
> etc, and a small group of us used to keep an eye on the recent changes for
> spam and other rubbish but those days seem to be long gone.
>
> With the key functions of the wiki non-functioning, it is close to useless
> as a coordination hub and discussion venue and therefore the WMUK
> community, such as it is (a smaller subset of the community on this mailing
> list with a more specific function) is essentially homeless. That this does
> not seem to be a high priority, much less cause for alarm, is in my opinion
> a reflection on the fact that there is nobody in any senior position at
> WMUK with any deep background on the Wikimedia projects - something it's
> hard to shake the feeling is a deliberate hiring decision.
>
> Harry Mitchell
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>
>
> On Sun, Jan 6, 2019 at 10:09 PM Lucy Crompton-Reid <
> lucy.crompton-r...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
>
>> Thanks Chris, and apologies that these issues are still not resolved -  I
>> appreciate that this is very frustrating. I'll need to look into this over
>> the next few days and get back to you, but just wanted to acknowledge your
>> message in the meantime. Cheers, Lucy
>>
>> On Sun, 6 Jan 2019 at 17:27, Chris McKenna <cmcke...@sucs.org> wrote:
>>
>>> This issue was raised on the wiki and this mailing list at the end of
>>> November. We were assured then that the problem, apparently also
>>> affecting
>>> QRpedia among other things, and action was in hand to resolve this
>>> problem
>>> and prevent similar issues in the future.
>>>
>>> However, over a month later (albeit with Christmas in the way) there is
>>> no
>>> evidence that anything has happened (I have made two edits to the
>>> sandbox
>>> today, should anyone wish to do their own testing).
>>>
>>> This leads to some questions:
>>> -Is it really the case that there is only a single volunteer who can fix
>>> the wiki?
>>> -If so, how and why has this been allowed to happen?
>>> -What contingency plans does WMUK have in case this volunteer dies or
>>> otherwise becomes permanently (or long term) unvailable, with or without
>>> warning?
>>> -If not, why has the problem not been fixed yet?
>>> In either case:
>>> -What is the timescale for fixing the problems?
>>> -What concrete actions have been undertaken since November to prevent
>>> this
>>> happening again?
>>> -What concrete actions are planned to be undertaken in the future to
>>> prevent this happening again (short and long term), and what is the
>>> timescale for them happening?
>>>
>>> ----
>>> Chris McKenna
>>>
>>> cmcke...@sucs.org
>>> www.sucs.org/~cmckenna
>>>
>>>
>>> The essential things in life are seen not with the eyes,
>>> but with the heart
>>>
>>> Antoine de Saint Exupery
>>>
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>>
>>
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