Thanks Fae, especially the link to the recent development of 3d files. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Village_pump/Archive/2017/05#Preparing_for_3D_models_on_Commons
Nearly there! Robin > > On 25 October 2017 at 10:23 Fæ <[email protected]> wrote: > > This is a slight tangent from YouTube, but it is unfair to say "no > progress". As per Rex, when the encoding is assessed as open* then > there is plenty of interest to ensure Wikimedia Commons accepts the > new standards. More generally there was a big discussion on Commons (2 > years ago I think) about whether to allow MP4 encoded video, the > community came to a consensus to stick to a firm compliance to open > standards. If there is something to push on, it would be having easier > and better transcoding tools. Something that has been on the wish-list > for a long time, but never made a priority for WMF dev. > > Examples of new file formats being allowed include hosting 3D models, > still under some final discussion on the Commons Village Pump, and the > change to allow MP3 audio files.[1][2] > > BTW, within YouTube, videos are always made available in webm format, > so a really smart import does not even need to do any transcoding. > Anyone wanting to invest some technical time in it should explore the > YouTube API which is well documented.[3] I would do more on this, but > I only have one lifetime. > > (*) Open is subject to interpretation. It's complex, so sometimes it > is worth making a proposal somewhere like the Commons VP and seeing > what happens. Sometimes the issue is complex enough that the best way > of proceeding is to get a handful of people together to discuss the > details over a pizza in a hackathon, and then come back to the wider > community with facts and recommendations. > > Links > > 1. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T3790 > 2. https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T115170 > 3. https://developers.google.com/youtube/v3/ > > Fae > -- > [email protected] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae > > On 25 October 2017 at 02:22, Rex X <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Commons does not allow "normal video file types" because many of > > them contain > > proprietary coding. > > > > Part of our mission is to encourage the growth of open resources > > and that > > includes open software and open standards. Commons takes that > > seriously and it's > > important that we do as well. Even if it seems inconvenient at > > times. > > > > -- > > Rexx > > > > > > > > > > On 24 October 2017 at 13:51 John Lubbock > > > <[email protected]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > Is the plan to transfer them from YouTube via Video2Commons? > > > In the past, > > > I've found that this tool often fails. It really is a shame > > > that no > > > progress has been made on allowing normal video file types. > > > > > > John Lubbock > > > > > > Communications Coordinator > > > > > > Wikimedia UK > > > > > > +44 (0) 203 372 0767 > > > > > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in > > > England and > > > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. > > > Office 1, > > > Ground Floor, Europoint, 5 - 11 Lavington Street, London SE1 > > > 0NZ. > > > > > > Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > > > movement. The > > > Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who > > > operate > > > Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an > > > independent > > > non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor > > > responsibility > > > for its contents.* > > > > > > On 24 October 2017 at 10:50, Michael Maggs > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Change at You Tube would be best actually, but I'd > > > > understood from your > > > > message that for whatever reason S4C have not managed > > > > to change the > > > > publicly visible You Tube licences. > > > > > > > > Shall we discuss in more detail off list? > > > > > > > > Michael > > > > > > > > On 24 Oct 2017, at 10:39, Robin Owain > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Thanks Michael! > > > > > > > > You recommend OTRS rather than change at You Tube? OK, > > > > I'll take your lead > > > > on this and email you asap. > > > > > > > > Many thanks > > > > > > > > Robin > > > > > > > > On 24 October 2017 at 10:29 Michael Maggs > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yes I can help. > > > > > > > > To ensure the videos aren't challenged on Commons we'll > > > > need formal > > > > confirmation from an authorised person at S4C to be > > > > sent to OTRS. If you > > > > could privately let me know details of the person who > > > > could provide the > > > > necessary confirmation I can draft a suitable email for > > > > them to send to > > > > OTRS. The uploaded files can then be tagged > > > > appropriately so that users > > > > don't start deleting them based on what they can see on > > > > YouTube. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >
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