Thanks. On 17 Jan 2017 15:50, "John Lubbock" <john.lubb...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote:
> I never said they 'had to be' on a closed forum. I presented the idea a > while ago, didn't get much feedback from anyone, and had already started > using Slack in the office, so I just created another channel. If you would > like to create a different channel for developers and have a separate lot > of discussions elsewhere, there's nothing stopping you. I have only offered > to try to coordinate the work of developers, and the door's open for those > who want to participate. > > John > > On 17 January 2017 at 15:34, Fæ <fae...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm still trying to understand why UK-based Wikimedia developer >> discussions have to be on a closed forum. >> >> As an example, with global discussions around issues or changes on >> Phabricator, a key benefit is that it is easy to link to these >> discussions and information on-wiki so that anyone can review them, >> not just those that have set up accounts on Phabricator. Encouraging >> wiki-project developers to join an invite-only channel to discuss >> changes to their open projects behind closed doors, appears to force a >> contradiction in values and remain an ethical barrier for potential >> contributors. >> >> At the point where any development might change Wikimedia projects, >> whatever was done on a closed forum would have to be presented >> publicly. Even abandoned ideas benefit the community by adding to our >> store of common knowledge, if the discussions are available for future >> reference rather than held in closed archives. >> >> Fae >> >> On 17 January 2017 at 14:51, John Lubbock <john.lubb...@wikimedia.org.uk> >> wrote: >> > The other thing is that we have already started using Slack in the >> office >> > for chat, and I have another slack channel for the Kurdish Wikipedia >> > Project, so I've already gone down this path a bit of a way and to back >> out >> > and start again because something else is open source would be quite >> > disruptive for other work I'm doing. I'm trying to organise developers >> to >> > come to one place to discuss this, and I've chosen Slack because it's >> easy >> > and lots of people use it. I appreciate that it might not be ideal for >> some >> > people, but I really can't spare the time and effort to start this all >> again >> > from scratch. >> > >> > John >> > >> > On 17 January 2017 at 13:19, Katherine Bavage < >> katherine.bav...@gmail.com> >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> I'm not planning to join because I don't code (though I'm happy to >> join a >> >> channel if you get to a stage where end user or design process >> feedback is >> >> useful) but I would note that asking people to adopt new platforms >> 'just >> >> because they are open source', rather than ones that are used by a lot >> of >> >> people/ a lot of people are already familiar with, is pretty daft when >> your >> >> ultimate goal is to benefit the open source community through the work >> the >> >> channel fosters. >> >> >> >> As far as I know, for this type of work, Slack is the go to for most >> devs. >> >> The Foundation use it without issue. >> >> >> >> On Tue, 17 Jan 2017 at 12:24 Gordon Joly <gordon.j...@pobox.com> >> wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On 17/01/17 00:38, John Lubbock wrote: >> >>> > It costs a lot of money, as far as I can see (it says Try for Free >> and >> >>> > then takes you to a page where it asks you to pay $100 a month). >> >>> >> >>> **** >> >>> We wrote Discourse, and we can host it for you, too. >> >>> **** >> >>> >> >>> Yes, that is a hosting option. You can download and install for free. >> I >> >>> am suggesting WMUK host the code on their own server... >> >>> >> >>> Gordo >> >> -- >> fae...@gmail.com https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> wikimediau...@wikimedia.org >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > wikimediau...@wikimedia.org > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: https://wikimedia.org.uk >
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