I've added it but it needs formatting into a table... Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992
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The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 27 April 2014 10:25, Jonathan Cardy <jonathan.ca...@wikimedia.org.uk>wrote: > Thanks Geni, Would you mind adding those suggestions to the > wishlist<https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Tank_Museum_2014#Requested_photographs>on > wiki, this mailing list is much better at making suggestions for photos > that could be taken at that museum, and the mailing I did to Wiki Loves > Monuments participants has been more fruitful at recruiting photographers > who are going to go there. Including one who has assured me he will work > from that list. > > I now have a number of requests to make of that museum covering everything > from lighting and moving the tanks around to having a ROV fly round in > their building. But as I have several photographers who have now taken a > third of the tickets, I think it would be best to wait until we can point > to some photos in use before I ask for what I suspect would be out of hours > access. > > . > > Jonathan Cardy > GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives & Museums) Organiser/Trefnydd GLAM > (Galeriau, > Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) > Wikimedia UK > 0207 065 0990 > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > > Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. > > > Press Enter to send your message. > > > On 26 April 2014 20:39, geni <geni...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Long email is long. >> >> >> While expanding commons is a worthy goal the museum is likely to want >> pics that make it into Wikipedia articles. The main challenge with >> photographing vehicles tends to be their size. Getting even lighting over >> an object that big is tricky (and tanks tend to be large even for >> vehicles). Studio set-ups use a bunch of big lights. Wikipedians tend to >> use outdoor shots (the soft light of dawn/ evening or light overcast during >> the day generally produces he best results). >> >> >> Indoors lighting tends to be worse with point sources resulting in >> uneven illumination. The shear size of vehicles means you can't generally >> light the whole things from an onboard flash. There is a significant >> falloff at a greater distance. Better results can be obtained with off >> camera flashes but this requires multiple people and someone experienced >> with off camera flash. Still it might be worth seeing if a team can be put >> together. We must have someone who knows their way around flash photography. >> >> >> In terms of what can usefully be photographed offer the following list. >> In addition photos of details (suspension, cupolas weapon mounts) as well >> as interiors are often lacking. >> >> >> ==Need pics== >> >> >> Mark IX tank >> >> Tetrarch -not easy to get a good pic of since it appears to be surrounded >> by stuff >> >> Vickers 6-Ton Tank >> >> Excelsior tank >> >> Valentine Archer >> >> T14 Heavy Tank >> >> >> ==Improvable with a tripod== >> >> >> Little Willie-seriously dark though current image has an exposure of ΒΌ >> seconds >> >> Mark II female >> >> TOGII >> >> >> ==Improvable through other methods== >> >> >> Light tank Mk IIA -Might be better with a slightly greater depth of >> field >> >> Tortoise heavy assault tank-Some clever HDR or off camera flash use is >> needed to deal with the rather messy lighting >> >> Black Prince-slightly wider field of view (the area behind the tank is >> much brighter than the tank itself which may complicate things). >> >> Valiant tank- needs a wider field of view. Area around tank is also >> pretty dark. >> >> Vickers A1E1 Independent-Some clever HDR or off camera flash use is >> needed to deal with the rather messy lighting >> >> FV4401 Contentious-Needs a wider field of view although >> >> Covenanter tank-Photo could be taken at a better angle. Some clever HDR >> or off camera flash use is needed to deal with the rather messy lighting >> >> FV 4005-Photo could be taken at a better angle in better weather >> >> Mark VIII- pic needed that shows the whole tank >> >> Rolls-Royce Armoured Car-Possible some HDR work. The thing has gloss >> paint that complicates things. >> >> Peerless Armoured Car- Looks like it could use some serious fill flash. >> >> Conqueror tank- slightly wider field of view. Lighting is going to be a >> pain since there appears to be a window behind it so the thing is strongly >> backlit. You would almost want a large ring flash (something like the >> AlienBees ABR800). Tricky >> >> Fiat M13/40- slightly wider crop >> >> >> On 23 April 2014 19:14, Chris Keating <chriskeatingw...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> I just had a flick through some images in that category, and there is >>> quite a lot that I reckon I'd be able to improve on with my D90 and a >>> tripod. If only I had a spare day to go and take photos of tanks :) >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 5:48 PM, geni <geni...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Tog 1 they don't. The only Cavalier tank I'm aware of is one in rather >>>> poor condition on the isle of weight. They've got a FV4211 turret but not a >>>> hull. They have got a Rotatrailer. >>>> >>>> We have already got a lot of photos from the museum: >>>> >>>> >>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Tanks_in_the_Bovington_Tank_Museum >>>> >>>> So you'd need to be pretty good to improve on what we have. We also >>>> have a lot of tanks from the likes of United States Army Ordnance Museum. >>>> >>>> Lighting isn't the greatest. If we could get a samyang 10mm f/2.8 and >>>> match it with the chapter's 60D we might be able to get some pretty good >>>> results. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 23 April 2014 17:16, Jonathan Cardy <jonathan.ca...@wikimedia.org.uk >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thanks Magnus and Richard, I have added your suggestions to the >>>>> wishlist<https://wikimedia.org.uk/wiki/Tank_Museum_2014#Requested_photographs>, >>>>> if anyone else has further suggestions please post them there. though it >>>>> might be worth checking if the museum has such a vehicle on display. >>>>> >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> Jonathan Cardy >>>>> GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives & Museums) Organiser/Trefnydd GLAM >>>>> (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) >>>>> Wikimedia UK >>>>> 0207 065 0990 >>>>> >>>>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England >>>>> and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. >>>>> Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, >>>>> London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a >>>>> global >>>>> Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia >>>>> Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). >>>>> >>>>> Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal >>>>> control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Press Enter to send your message. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 23 April 2014 16:50, Richard Symonds < >>>>> richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Such as: >>>>>> >>>>>> - Tiger 131 (which could be notable by itself) >>>>>> - Rotatrailer >>>>>> - the Sherman Crab >>>>>> - the FV4211 (first vehicle fitted with Chobham armour) >>>>>> >>>>>> All a bit niche but very interesting to those of us who are >>>>>> interested in such things... >>>>>> >>>>>> Richard Symonds >>>>>> Wikimedia UK >>>>>> 0207 065 0992 >>>>>> >>>>>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England >>>>>> and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. >>>>>> Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, >>>>>> London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a >>>>>> global >>>>>> Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia >>>>>> Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). >>>>>> >>>>>> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal >>>>>> control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 23 April 2014 16:35, Magnus Manske <magnusman...@googlemail.com>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> FWIW, the only British tanks on en.wikipedia without an image appear >>>>>>> to be: >>>>>>> TOG1 >>>>>>> Morris-Martel >>>>>>> Tank, Cruiser, Mk VII Cavalier (A24) ([[Cavalier tank]]) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But then, of course, there may be ones that don't have an article >>>>>>> yet! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Magnus >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:48 PM, Jonathan Cardy < >>>>>>> jonathan.ca...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Wikimedia UK mailing list, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> We have been given some free off peak weekday tickets to the tank >>>>>>>> museum in Dorset. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have already Emailed those of our Wiki Loves Monuments >>>>>>>> participants who opted in to further events, so apologies if this is a >>>>>>>> repeat, but if anyone here fancies taking photographs of tanks, send me >>>>>>>> your snail mail address and I will send you a ticket >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Jonathan Cardy >>>>>>>> GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives & Museums) Organiser/Trefnydd GLAM >>>>>>>> (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) >>>>>>>> Wikimedia UK >>>>>>>> 0207 065 0990 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in >>>>>>>> England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. 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