Martin makes a good point and now that I'm off work for a few days ill reply as a volunteer: I would be in favour of signing this. is something I believe most members would agree with signing too. On Nov 28, 2013 3:31 PM, "Stevie Benton" <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks for the replies. As Martin notes, I haven't said it is out of > scope, but that *some may* feel that way. > > It is a tricky question, actually. If I had to call it on my own view, I'd > say sign it as it is worthwhile. "Free and open" being the key words here - > if there is widespread and secretive surveillance, then the web, and the > knowledge contained therein, becomes neither free nor open. But I can see > that it isn't necessarily clear-cut, hence asking the question. > > > On 28 November 2013 15:23, Richard Symonds < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Well, it's not really directly linked to our objects ("for the benefit >> of the public, to promote and support the widest possible public access to, >> use of and contribution to Open Content of an encyclopaedic or educational >> nature or of similar utility to the general public"). That said, >> ensuring that data safeguards are in place (in part by signing things like >> this) would help encourage people to use the internet and be more open with >> their knowledge (as they can trust it more if it's properly regulated and >> data isn't being surreptitiously obtained by all and sundry). >> >> A complex question. >> >> Richard Symonds >> Wikimedia UK >> 0207 065 0992 >> >> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and >> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered >> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. >> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia >> movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who >> operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). >> >> *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control >> over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* >> >> >> On 28 November 2013 15:18, Fæ <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 28 November 2013 13:24, Stevie Benton <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> > Hello everyone, >>> > >>> > Wikimedia UK has been asked to consider signing a document supporting >>> these >>> > International Principles on the Application of Human Rights to >>> > Communications Surveillance In principle I think this is worthwhile and >>> > shows that we are on the side of the every day internet user. But some >>> may >>> > say it is out of our scope. What do people think? If there's a >>> consensus >>> > I'll add Wikimedia UK to the list. >>> > >>> > This can be discussed on this list or on the Water Cooler of the WMUK >>> wiki >>> > if you prefer. >>> >>> What were the "out of our scope" objections? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Fae >>> -- >>> [email protected] http://j.mp/faewm >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >> > > > -- > > Stevie Benton > Communications Organiser > Wikimedia UK+44 (0) 20 7065 0993 / +44 (0) 7803 505 173 > @StevieBenton > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over > Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >
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