Perhaps change "rules... are" to "law... is" on the final sentence?
-- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk On Sep 17, 2013 5:55 PM, "Michael Maggs" <[email protected]> wrote: > If you have enough space I would go with this. If you need to shorten it, > skip the bit about the stained glass. > * > * > *Freedom of panorama in the UK* > > Under UK law you can upload a photo of the architecture of any building > (inside or out) without infringing any copyright. The same applies to any > 3D artwork, such as a statue, provided that the artwork is in a public > place (somewhere normally open to the public, including interior spaces > such as museums), and is *permanently* on view there. So, you can freely > upload a photo of the Angel of the North, even though the sculpture itself > is copyright-protected. The rule applies to stained glass on permanent > public view, but not to other 2D works such as posters or signs - even if > they are permanently sited in a public place. Note that the rules outside > the UK are often much more restrictive.” > > Michael > > On 17 Sep 2013, at 17:12, Stevie Benton wrote: > > Thanks Michael for your comments. Here's the version I currently have: > > "Freedom of panorama in the UK - Under UK law you can upload a photo of > the architecture of any building (inside or outside) without infringing any > copyright. The same applies to any 3D artwork, such as a statue, provided > that it is permanently located in a public space (somewhere normally open > to the public, including interior spaces such as museums). You can freely > upload a photo of the Angel of the North, even though the sculpture itself > is copyright-protected. Note that this only applies to 3D works and not 2D > works such as posters or signs - even if they are on public display. Note > also that the rules outside the UK are often different." > > > > We've gone backwards and forwards on this quite a lot, so, executive > decision - Michael, can you take a look, recommend any changes and we'll go > with your final, recommended version. > > Thank you everyone, > > Stevie > > > On 17 September 2013 17:07, Michael Maggs <[email protected]> wrote: > >> No, definitely not an improvement - sorry! >> >> This version goes far beyond a copyedit and introduces substantive and >> incorrect changes on points of law. First, it mixes up buildings (which do >> *not* have to be public) and and sculptures (which do). Second, the >> text appears to be based on an incorrect understanding that the underlying >> legal distinction is between 2D and 3D, which it is results in a completely >> wrong explanation of why stained glass is OK (actually, it is because >> stained glass falls under a peculiar category of UK copyright called 'works >> of artistic craftsmanship’, a category which also would also include 3D >> designer jewellery). >> >> Please can we revert back to my last draft, and if needed edit for >> readability only? >> >> Michael >> >> >> On Tuesday, 17 September 2013, Stevie Benton wrote: >> >>> Thanks Jonathan. Before I go through the awkward job of tinkering with >>> the InDesign file, what do other people think about the revision? >>> >>> Thank you, >>> >>> Stevie >>> >>> >>> On 17 September 2013 12:47, Jonathan Cardy < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thanks all, >>> >>> *Possible revised wording with examples from the borderline and less >>> repetition. >>> * >>> * >>> UK Freedom of panorama* >>> >>> Under UK law, you can photograph, upload and share with the world a >>> photo of any 3d artifact such as a building or sculpture that is >>> permanently publicly displayed in the UK, even if the object is still under >>> copyright. But you need to check four things: >>> 1 Is it permanently on display? Temporary exhibits such as on the fourth >>> plinth in Trafalgar square are not included, but the Angel of the North is. >>> 2 When you took the photograph were you somewhere normally open to the >>> public? Inside a pub or museum is fine, where you work or were a guest >>> probably isn't. >>> 3 Was it 3d not 2d? Buildings and sculpture are 3d, graffiti, paintings >>> and signs are 2d. So a photograph of stained glass illuminated by light >>> shining through it is 3d, but the same stained glass window reflecting your >>> flash at night is 2d and might still be under copyright. >>> 4 Did you take the photo in the UK? Most other countries have stricter >>> rules. >>> >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> Jonathan Cardy >>> GLAM (Galleries, Libraries, Archives & Museums) Organiser/ >>> Trefnydd GLAM (Galeriau, Llyfrgelloedd, Archifdai a llawer Mwy!) >>> Wikimedia UK >>> 0207 065 0990 >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> Thank you Martin for your kind words. 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