I'm glad all the details will be diligently handled. I know I always expect things to take 50% longer than I expect. I've still usually underestimated the time needed.
Good luck with all the details. Jess T On Mon, Mar 11, 2013 at 10:46 AM, rexx <[email protected]> wrote: > It is perfectly understandable that people on this list are curious to > know what is happening with QRpedia and its transfer to Wikimedia UK. I'll > do my best to clarify as much as I am able. > > First of all it is not about money or payments. Roger and Terence have > been absolutely clear about this from the start – there is no financial > consideration and the transfer of ownership is a donation to Wikimedia UK > and the community from Terence and Roger. The delays have been many over > the last eighteen months but we are almost there. > > This has not been a simple process and we had to make sure we got it > right. The heads of agreement that we signed with Roger in February was an > expression of mutual trust and a desire to make the QRpedia platform > available to the whole world and sustainable to those already using it. The > recent statement of the Wikimedia Foundation about “wiki towns” ( > http://blog.wikimedia.org/2013/03/08/wmf-trademark-practices-for-qr-codes-and-wikitowns/) > is a step forward in making the availability greater. > > So what are the delays? > > Firstly, holding our hands up here, we have been relying on pro-bono legal > advice to do most of the work in getting the full arrangements in place. > There have been some delays owing to the lawyer concerned having a rush of > his paid work. We have been holding off saying more until that was signed. > It is important for everyone concerned, particularly the charity, that we > get this right. > > Secondly - and this scares anyone who understands such things, which > doesn't include me - there is a issue concerning a possible patent troll > that needs to be resolved as it could be a risk to the charity. The > concerns arising here are complicated - it's possible that Saad may be able > to say more when he gets a chance - and they do need to be properly > examined. To complete the transfer before doing this I believe would be > negligent. > > The technical issues have been addressed so we are ready to move forwards > on that side of things. There is an concern that has been raised about > whether the use and storage of information to produce the statistics at > http://qrpedia.org/stats.php is fully compliant with EU privacy > legislation. We're seeking advice on whether this is an issue that requires > a change in the current use of data, but it is expected that agreeing a > privacy policy and updating our data registration will be enough. Our > technical consultants are confident they can implement whatever is needed, > if required. > > I hope we will have more news to report soon. I appreciate everyone wants > to see the transfer finalised - myself as much as anyone, considering the > amount of time I've invested in this - but I hope you'll agree that it is > worth the wait in order to be certain that the transfer is done properly. > > Doug Taylor > -- > > > On 11 March 2013 09:25, Roger Bamkin <[email protected]> wrote: > >> The question was how "how long is this going to take" ..... I have >> estimated weeks. It appears I was wrong to offer this estimate. So "any >> minute now" must be correct then. >> >> Well that was my last update. "Thank you (not)" for the reception of >> information honestly offered. The tech committee debated the transfer of >> the domains and many offering their wisdom now could have attended that >> meeting and found out what the problems were. You could have asked >> questions .... and got answers. >> >> There is no real privacy issue. Do we have people who were not at that >> tech meeting running around and debating "the privacy issue" ..... yes. Do >> they know what they are talking about? .... ???. Are they causing delays >> .... yes. Hence my comment about volunteers and meetings. >> >> Sharing your exasperation here is not going to help. Implyng that this >> has anything to do with money is very unhelpful and belittles all of us. >> .... and I do mean all of us. If you are not willing to AGF then I can >> obviously offer no reply that will satisfy you. >> >> Now if I or Terence had control it would be transferred already, but we >> don't. We have made three agreements so far with the board or their >> representatives. You may notice that there are few informative postings >> here from board or staff. They are obviously wiser than me. If anyone wants >> to write to me in a civil tone and agf then I'd be happy to talk to them. >> >> Oh and thanks to Mike who presumably took my advice and did a WHOIS >> enquiry rather than posting here. Thank you particularly Mike for offering >> thanks for renewing the domain. Civility and good faith are appreciated. >> >> >> >> >> >> On 11 March 2013 08:10, Gordon Joly <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On 10/03/13 22:17, Michael Peel wrote: >>> >>>> qrpedia.org appears to have been renewed for a year - its expiry date >>>> is now 13-Mar-2014. Many thanks to Terence and Roger for renewing it. >>>> >>>> >>> All those qr codes pasted on buildings and the like with nowhere to go? >>> >>> The Meaning of Liff for the 21st Century on 11th March 2013? >>> >>> Douglas Adams would have been 61 years of age today........ >>> >>> Gordo >>> >>> >>> >>> ______________________________**_________________ >>> Wikimedia UK mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mail.wikimedia.org/**mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l<http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l> >>> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia UK mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l >> WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org >> >> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia UK mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l > WMUK: http://uk.wikimedia.org > >
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