How about doing it in a nice way? Sending a thank you LETTER (sorry trees) with a badge or sticker in and an 'if not received return to...label. AT least that would be some sort of verification. Perhaps a freepost confirmation postcard therein as a belt and braces?
To be frank going from 320 to 260 members recently seems that our problem is quite the reverse. On 20 November 2012 14:27, Richard Symonds <richard.symo...@wikimedia.org.uk > wrote: > To reply to Harry's points: > >> (i) Should we enforce more checks on prospective members? > > Yes, although "enforce" is the wrong word. Perhaps "check that they are > real people who will support our objects and haven't given a fake address" > would be a better way of putting it. We have a duty to ensure that the > members of the charity are actual people, and not, for example, someone's > cats who have a vote in order to swing elections one way or another. > >> (ii) Should we enforce more checks on members before we let them vote at >> AGMs, whether in person or by proxy? > > No. Once a member, it's too late - you have the right to vote (even if > you're a cat, I suspect). Checks really need to be done before members are > approved. > > Richard Symonds > Wikimedia UK > 0207 065 0992 > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* > > > > On 19 November 2012 15:19, Harry Burt <harryab...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Aren't there really two points here: >> (i) Should we enforce more checks on prospective members? >> (ii) Should we enforce more checks on members before we let them vote at >> AGMs, whether in person or by proxy? >> >> I think the legal question is a good one. Are charities required to do >> neither/either/both? Legal issues aside, surely (ii) but not (i) is the >> easiest by quite a margin. >> >> Harry >> >> -- >> Harry Burt (User:Jarry1250) >> >> >> On Mon, Nov 19, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Katherine Bavage < >> katherine.bav...@wikimedia.org.uk> wrote: >> >>> Hi All, >>> >>> At the board meeting on Saturday a valid point was made that currently >>> the verification process for membership applications doesn't really prove a >>> barrier to fraudulent or duplicate applications. >>> >>> I'd like to look at ways of improving this, so as we aim to expand our >>> membership numbers we're also making sure fairness is enshrined in a >>> checking process that means people can only have one vote. >>> >>> If people pay their membership fee with Paypal, this isn't so much of a >>> problem, as having a verified paypal account has already required this >>> person to link their identity to their postal address - but we want to be >>> as open as possible and so there will be people who give us 'a form and a >>> fiver'. >>> >>> What checking processes do we think would be acceptable without being >>> invasive/onerous? At a basic level, we should be confirming that the >>> applicant is the named person at the address given. >>> >>> Please flag up concerns, suggestions for services or resources we can >>> use, and so on. It may be that we can't completely eliminate the risk of >>> fraudulent applications, but we can make it more difficult and provide a >>> measure or reassurance that no individual has more power than any other by >>> being able to vote twice etc . >>> >>> Thanks! >>> >>> -- >>> *Katherine Bavage * >>> *Fundraising Manager * >>> *Wikimedia UK* >>> +44 20 7065 0949 >>> >>> Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and >>> Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered >>> Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. >>> United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia >>> movement. 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