Hello,

unfortunately we have not received any replies after this thread. As I
understand it, there is some enthusiasm with individuals, but nobody is
prepared to take a lead, within or outside Wikimedia UK? Basically what you
need is two types of leadership:

1) someone to set up a primary structure on Wikipedia - basically a
Wikiproject - and motivates others to help out setting up the list system
(this is the most important and urgent job)
2) someone to do the real life part of the organization: organize a
brainstorm meeting, organize a meeting with the relevant authorities to get
the databases released if not yet available, to find sponsors, set up a
budget etc.

Any volunteers? I hope Wikimedia UK can pick up from here though ;-)

Thanks, Lodewijk

2011/2/4 effe iets anders <[email protected]>

> Hello all,
>
> I know there has been some discussion about a Wiki Loves Monuments in
> the UK, but I have heard little back after that. I think there is
> definitely a lot of potential in the UK for setting up a project like
> this, and hope that it would be possible to find the volunteers to run
> this in the coming time.
>
> Who can take the lead on this in the UK?
>
> Please see
> http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikilovesmonuments/2011-January/000001.html
> for my email and offer to join a brainstorm session if there would be
> need/advantage for that. If that would help, I am more than happy to
> join you guys somewhere reachable in a conversation on how to make
> this happen. I got the suggestion the coming up London Meetup might be
> helpful. Are there many interested people from outside London? Would
> Wikimedia UK be able and willing to set up a meeting there and to
> reimburse for example some travel costs for those outside London to
> join the meeting? Just shooting some suggestions here, I'm sure you
> can come up with better :)
>
> Do remind please that to make this work, you really have to give this
> a start in February, or it will be very hard to have the lists and
> systems in place in time.
>
> I look forward to your positive and constructive replies!
>
> Lodewijk Gelauff
>
> 2010/12/15 Michael Peel <[email protected]>:
> > Forwarding with permission of the sender. I'm very eager to see the UK
> and
> > Ireland participate in this if possible, but from my experience of
> running
> > Britain Loves Wikipedia I'm very aware that this needs a team of people
> > running it rather than just one person. So: is anyone interested in
> > leading/helping with this project?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Mike
> > Begin forwarded message:
> >
> > From: Lodewijk <[email protected]>
> > Date: 14 December 2010 20:20:15 GMT
> > To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination (closed
> subscription)"
> > <[email protected]>
> > Subject: [Internal-l] Wiki Loves Monuments 2011 - Europe?
> > Reply-To: "Local Chapters, board and officers coordination \(closed
> > subscription\)" <[email protected]>
> >
> > Summary of this email (sorry for long text): We did Wiki Loves Monuments
> > (WLM) 2010 in the Netherlands, we would like to do Wiki Loves Monuments
> > again in 2011, but now in Europe. This is only possible when many
> chapters
> > participate, therefore this e-mail. To be clear: this event will only
> happen
> > on a European level if there is sufficient chapter participation to
> combine
> > efforts. Please feel free to forward to whomever you find appropriate.
> > You might have heard before about Wiki Loves Monuments 2010 in the
> > Netherlands. It was a highly successful photo scavenger hunt with 12.500
> > submissions and over 250 participants[0]. We recently completed a post
> > mortem of this event with a more extensive description and analysis [1].
> > However, there are still many monuments in the Netherlands which can be
> > photographed, so we are considering another run for next year - but then
> in
> > a European context. Below we will explain a bit how we got where we are,
> > what we have in mind, and what you could expect.
> > So how did this all start? At the Dutch Wikipedia we have the windmill
> > project. One of the main goals was to get an article with an image for
> every
> > windmill in the Netherlands. Lists were created of windmills per province
> > and statistics were made on a regular basis to track progress. This
> approach
> > worked very well and made it possible to tackle a big problem; All the
> > windmills have an article now.
> > Some volunteers, in cooperation with the chapter, managed to get a
> dataset
> > of all "Rijksmonumenten" (Dutch national monuments - 60.000
> > buildings/objects with some historical or cultural relevance) from the
> > "Rijksdienst voor het Cultureel Erfgoed" (Dutch national heritage
> > organisation, RCE). This marked the birth of the "Rijksmonumenten"
> project.
> > The project uses the lessons learned in the windmill project. The data
> from
> > the RCE was converted into lists by location and put on the Dutch
> Wikipedia.
> > The community started improving the lists by adding missing information
> or
> > adding photo's.
> > In June 2009 Wikimedia Nederland ran Wiki Loves Art /NL [2] : A photo
> > scavenger hunt in more than 40 museums. Also quite successful (5.400
> > photos), but much more work intensive because you need to keep contacts
> with
> > all the museums and usually museums are further away from people's homes
> > than the nearest monuments.
> > For 2010 we were looking for a nice topic for a photo competition. The
> > "Rijksmonumenten" project was running very well so we decided to organize
> > Wiki Loves Monuments to give this Wikipedia project a boost.
> > So, what would a European WLM most likely look like? Let me give you an
> idea
> > of what we are thinking of, changes are open for debate of course. Trying
> to
> > incorporate the main lessons from last year in the Netherlands into a
> > European model, we think it might work best if Wiki Loves Monuments is
> > organized on a national level primarily, but with cooperations, shared
> > resources and international prizes on a European level. The national
> > contests do not have to be identical, but some consistency would be
> > practical. We are not sure yet what countries would be most successful,
> but
> > our initial hope would be EU chapter countries and Switzerland.
> > Basically, Wiki Loves Monuments would run 1-30 September 2011, and
> > participants would be allowed to submit photos of monuments which are
> part
> > of the object list. This object list includes the address and ideally
> > geo-coordinates of all monuments which are allowed to participate. In
> each
> > participating country there would be some prizes available, to be awarded
> by
> > a jury for that country. The top-X of each could be competing for
> European
> > prizes.
> > You can find more information on how WLM 2010 was organized on the
> > post-mortem [1]. That also lines out in more detail how much work it
> would
> > be, and what the positive impact could be.
> > Most of the local work would be to get a database with the objects,
> create
> > object lists from that (possibly Dutch volunteers could support you with
> > that, they have the experience [3]) and get the community involved on
> that.
> > You would need to get communications going, both external to the press
> > (press releases etc) as to participants (have a clear website in your
> > language(s) with explanation, rules etc), find a jury and prizes for them
> to
> > award. We can help each other with example press releases, best
> practices,
> > template and list examples and community motivation.
> > So, what to do when you like this idea? Well, it would be good to first
> of
> > all check with your collegues (at the board, other members, community)
> what
> > they think of it. You probably need several people to run such a
> competition
> > over time to some extent. Next step would be to do some analysis on your
> > local situation: who would be good partners (who keeps the lists of
> > monuments?) for you, how many monuments are there in your country, are
> they
> > well spread? What information/photos are already available of it roughly?
> > Are there community members involved in that kind of topic? Definitely
> read
> > the post-mortem and some relevant links from there [1].
> > For the time being, we registered www.wikilovesmonuments.eu and are in
> touch
> > with CARARE and Europeana (European cultural heritage organizations) -
> who
> > seem to be interested in laying contacts with local cultural heritage
> > organizations. Hopefully that helps them to realize the European context
> and
> > impact this could have. The most important partner in each country would
> be
> > the one that governs the database with all monuments, and could release
> that
> > to you. This database/list is crucial for the success of such an event.
> > Please inform us (ideally through internal-l) when you would be
> interested
> > in joining in such European event, if there is enough enthusiasm, we will
> > create a special (easy to join) mailing list to coordinate efforts to
> allow
> > more volunteers to join in the discussions. We already took the liberty
> of
> > discussing this with some other chapters, and are hopeful that it will
> > actually get to a first grand chapter cooperation program. Of course this
> > does not mean you are bound, but that you think you would like to
> > participate. You can also join #wikilovesmonuments on freenode irc of
> course
> > if you like.
> > With kind regards,
> > Maarten Dammers
> > Lodewijk Gelauff
> >
> > [0]: http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments
> > [1]:
> >
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/post_mortem
> > [2]:http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Art_Netherlands
> > [3]:
> >
> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Wiki_Loves_Monuments/template_system
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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