At 14:23 -0800 8/1/09, AndrewRT wrote: >On Jan 7, 9:41 pm, Gordon Joly <[email protected]> wrote: >> >Now, where are the rules of the game? >> >> >Gordo > >The skeleton of the rules of the game are outlined on the wikipedia >project page (en:WP:WLART) and the Flickr group (http://www.flickr.com/ >groups/wikipedia_loves_art/) Quite a few of the details are still >missing - some just not expressed and up to be decided. I had a fairly >detailed conversation with Pharos last week and many of these details >are set but just not put on paper yet! > > >From various discussions, the outline seems to be: > >People are invited to take photos, within the rules of the particular >institution. For instance, the V&A say no tripods, no photos in >temporary exhibitions (these are marked on the museum guide) and none >of work created by artists who are alive or who died within 70 years >(a precise statement of their rules will be posted to the wiki soon); >as most of their collection is older than 200 years, the last isn't >much of a problem as long as you keep away from the modern sections. >If you take a photo of an item, please make your next photo a photo of >the label so we can catalogue. > >People will be given a list of about 50 themes. For instance if the >theme is "politician" (not giving anything away here!), you would get >a point for a photograph of a sculture of a politician. You can get a >maximum of three points per theme so the most you could get is 150 >points. A photo cannot count to more than one theme. > >Once taken, please upload the photo of the item and the label to >flickr. Add a name, description and tag "V&A". Also tag the "theme" >that applies to the photo. Crop, rotate, sharpen or otherwise edit it >within flickr as necessary; Change the license to CC-Attribution or CC- >Attribution-ShareAlike. Then add it to the WLA group. > >I've just noticed incidentally that flickr has an upload limit of >100MB per month for free accounts. My 6mp camera creates photos about >0.5 to 2 MB in size meaning I expect to get around 100 photos for that >(50 images plus 50 tags). Is this likely to cause a problem? Can you >get round it by just creating three accounts? > >Or should we say people can alternatively just upload the photo of the >item, as long as you transcribe the label onto the description? > >Each museum will go round each photo tagged to them and check it >complies with their restrictions (e.g. living artists). I'm not sure >at the moment whether they will remove non-compliant images from the >group or tag them and ask the photographer to remove them from the >group. Either way they will still be there on the person's own >photostream so there's no loss if we need to reverse it. Also I'm not >sure whether someone will go round positively tagging those that >appear to be compliant. > >We will also contact users who haven't applied a wikipedia-compatible >license to ask them to change it. > >All photos must be uploaded with the right tags and license by the end >of February to get any points. > >Once all this is done, we'll tot up the points and announce the >results. The three people who get the most points will each win a >prize. The person with the most points will also win the prize from >Wikipedia Loves Art, which is to nominate their favourite artist and a >group of wikpedians will create a Good Article on the artist. > >We'll then ask people to nominate what they think is the best addition >to wikipedia, have a vote and the winner of that will also get a >prize. > >Employees of the V&A and Board members of Wiki UK Ltd are not eligible >for prizes but are still welcome to take part! > >After that, comes stage 2 which is to identify photos that would be >useful on wikipedia. I would expect to see a number of repeat images, >so we should try to identify the best photos. This is probably best >done by adding comments to the photo in the group. Once this is done, >transfer them to Commons using a tool like >http://toolserver.org/~bryan/flickr/upload >and link into articles. Also add a category like "Wikipedia Loves Art" >so we can keep track on the lasting impact we're having. This will all >be done in March/April. > >ok, how does that sound? Is this plan going to work? Is there a better >way of doing things? What other details need to be decided to make >this project work? > >regards, > >Andrew
Thanks Andrew. How does that sound? Complicated, and the competitor cannot control "stage 2". So it is no longer a scavenger hunt at that stage, there may be wrangling... if the other parties don't like the images (not the judges). And I thought that this was a team competition. http://www.flickr.com/groups/wikipedia_loves_art/ "Shoot on your own or create a small team (10 people, tops) and sign-up online (posted soon)." Is the V & A competition a solo effort? Gordon -- "Think Feynman"///////// http://pobox.com/~gordo/ [email protected]/// _______________________________________________ Wikimedia UK mailing list [email protected] http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_UK http://mail.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimediauk-l
