People like myself who mostly edit English Wiikipedia but would like to attend such conferences. we don't even come to know about it or even where / when it is being held.
Is there a link page to what happened / outcomes / resolutions / list of partcipants / photos etc. ? On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 at 17:26, Jayantilal Kothari <[email protected]> wrote: > Subhashish, > > While I understand that you haven't played any role in organizing the > conference and you may not be attending, it is essential to recognize that > transparency and open communication are key to maintaining trust within the > community. Intentionally hiding information can often lead to corruption, > which is why concerns raised by reputed community members should not be > dismissed as petty. > > Although safe spaces and controlled entry are important, it should not > come at the cost of transparency. Striking a balance between safety and > openness is crucial. It is the responsibility of event organizers to keep > the community informed and involved in the process. > > Given the current circumstances, it seems that the Wikimedia Foundation > has potentially hijacked the Wiki Conference India to advance their own > agenda without actively maintaining transparency. As community members, we > should be concerned about this apparent lack of openness, as it could > undermine the very principles upon which the Wikimedia movement is founded. > > We must remember that the lack of transparency surrounding this particular > Wiki Conference could enable the Wikimedia Foundation to use it as an > opportunity to present certain proposals and collect selective feedback. > This would be a highly questionable practice, given that the WMF should not > make any decisions or collect selective feedback during this event and then > present it as broader community feedback. Such actions would be misleading > and could be considered a corrupt practice. > > As community members, we must hold the WMF and event organizers > accountable for ensuring that the conference reflects the values of > transparency, inclusiveness, and open collaboration that are fundamental to > the Wikimedia movement. By doing so, we can prevent the possibility of the > WMF using this event as a platform to push through decisions or collect > selective feedback without properly involving the broader community. > > Regards, > Jayantilal > > On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 at 6:29 AM, Subhashish <[email protected]> wrote: > >> I'm not bring able to attend or haven't been played any role in >> organising, but petty accusation based on no real substance, that to from >> two members of the community with long experience, reflects 0% assumptions >> of any good faith. This would hurt the community spirit. Why page not >> updated considered secrecy? Why questions framed for fellow volunteers so >> sensational. We all at some point found things missing and have added a >> word in random pages. I don't know most of the people organising the event >> but many new community members are able to bring together the larger Indian >> community after long, especially when the risks of the pandemic are less. >> >> Registration-based entry is not secrecy. Walk-in is not openness. Safe >> spaces are always created by building a layer or controlled and vetted >> entry. We all saw what kind of interesting events happened in Mumbai back >> in 2011. Wikimedians and their physical safety are much more important that >> an abstract, self-professed version of openness. >> >> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023, 2:44 AM Sudhanwa Jogalekar <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> WOW!! >>> >>> I completely agree with Pavanja !! >>> >>> Looks like this conference is some kind of secret mission!! >>> >>> There is hardly any activity about it on the mailing list or even on >>> wiki. >>> >>> For no reason, secrecy is seen everywhere eg. Check the team page. >>> >>> >>> Asaf says, ad hoc attendance is discouraged. But without any disclosure >>> of the venue, such attendance is not going to happen at all !! >>> >>> Where is the openness and trust that exist on Wikipedia reflected in the >>> conference?? >>> >>> Or possibly that 90+ lakhs budget amount is to be spent secretly !! >>> >>> Ironically the theme of the conference is "Strengthening bonds" !! Looks >>> like there are very secret bonds to be developed there !! >>> >>> >>> Anyways, all the best wishes to the conference!! >>> >>> Well, I was thinking of sending some press release to the media. Nothing >>> available about it on the conference website. >>> >>> Regards >>> Sudhanwa >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Apr 28, 2023, 12:29 AM Asaf Bartov <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, Pavanaja. >>>> >>>> As the conference FAQ page[1] mentions, there will be no streaming, and >>>> walk-in ad hoc attendance is discouraged. >>>> >>>> Folks who have registered have received all the information. >>>> >>>> As for documentation by participants, I'm sure that will begin to show >>>> up once the conference proper begins (tomorrow morning). >>>> >>>> A. >>>> >>>> [1] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2023/FAQ >>>> >>>> On Thu, 27 Apr 2023, 20:33 <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Namaste, >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Wkiconference India 2023 starts tomorrow. The home page is here - >>>>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/WikiConference_India_2023 >>>>> >>>>> I have many questions – >>>>> >>>>> - Where the event is happening? >>>>> - If someone just wants to walk-in, where he/she should go? >>>>> - Sessions are listed. But no details. There could have been link >>>>> to the submissions so that we can know what are the details >>>>> - No mention of links to online streaming. No live streaming? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I just observed something peculiar about this event. Most details, for >>>>> ex., venue, are kept as secret. What is the necessity to do so? When I >>>>> travel to such events, I start posting in social media (FB, Insta, >>>>> Twitter, >>>>> Whatsapp status) about the event, start posting photos from airport itself >>>>> till end of event. So far I did not see a single post about the event, the >>>>> venue, the goodies, the sessions, etc. What’s going on? Whether the >>>>> organisers have put a ban on such activities? If that is the case, then it >>>>> is totally against the philosophy of free knowledge and open society. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I am just wondering. I am sure many more also will be wondering. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Thanks and regards, >>>>> >>>>> Pavanaja >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list -- [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikimediaindia-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list -- [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>>> [email protected] >>>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikimediaindia-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list -- [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe send an email to >>> [email protected] >>> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikimediaindia-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimediaindia-l mailing list -- [email protected] >> To unsubscribe send an email to >> [email protected] >> To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikimediaindia-l.lists.wikimedia.org/ > > -- > Regards, > > Jayantilal > > Sent from my iPhone > _______________________________________________ > Wikimediaindia-l mailing list -- [email protected] > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > To unsubscribe from the list / change mailing preferences visit > https://lists.wikimedia.org/postorius/lists/wikimediaindia-l.lists.wikimedia.org/
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