Agreed, there is a *lot* we could do if there were resources assigned to interactive media.
-- brion On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:29 AM James Heilman <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks Galder > > As mentioned Wiki Project Med is working to improve some of these issues > this year, supported by funding from the WMF. > > 1) We are still trying to get OWID working on Wikipedia. Here is what it > looks like on MDWiki <https://mdwiki.org/wiki/WikiProjectMed:OWID>. > > 2) We are also working on a CT scan viewer that functions better than this > <https://mdwiki.org/wiki/Mesenteric_ischemia/CT_image>. > > 3) And are trying to get VideoWiki > <https://mdwiki.org/wiki/WikiProjectMed:VideoWiki> functional again after > it died a few years back. > > Would love to see MP4s uploadable to Commons. Sure we can auto convert to > open formats in the background and hide the MP4s until they are fully open, > but this should be done by us and we should not be forcing our editors to > use other websites to achieve this. > > James > > On Tue, Jan 23, 2024 at 10:47 AM Ivan Martínez <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Hi Galder, I certainly share your sentiment. The world is undoubtedly >> moving at such a speed that other sites have invested millions to make the >> experience better. But ours has millions as well, and those of us who edit >> on a day-to-day basis still have the worst internet experience when it >> comes for an example to editing and uploading photos. Not to mention the >> long and tortuous road to video uploading (Commons has no decent support >> for this <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Video>), in the >> midst of the biggest generational shift in video consumption. >> >> There is a phrase in my country that if civil servants were on public >> transport, we would probably have faster improvements. Will it be the same >> for us, if we do not have staff who do not face our daily "challenges"? >> >> I don't know. >> >> El mar, 23 ene 2024 a las 5:03, Galder Gonzalez Larrañaga (< >> [email protected]>) escribió: >> >>> Dear wikimedians, >>> Nearly one year ago, the Graphs extension was disabled from all wikis, >>> because there was a security issue that should be solved ( >>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T334940). A wide team from the WMF >>> worked on a solution for some weeks, but after Northern Hemisphere spring >>> ended, summer came, then the monsoon season, and now it is again summer in >>> the Southern Hemisphere... and Graphs are still disabled. All the solutions >>> proposed have been dismissed, but every two months there's a proposal to >>> make a new roadmap to solve the issue. We have plenty of roadmaps, but no >>> vehicle to reach our destination. >>> >>> Seven years ago, we were discussing our Strategy for 2030. We used >>> thousands of volunteer hours, thousands of staff hours and millions of >>> dollars to build a really well-balanced strategy. There we concluded that >>> "*By >>> 2030, Wikimedia will become the essential infrastructure of the ecosystem >>> of free knowledge*". We also made some recommendations to improve the >>> User Experience ( >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Strategy/Recommendations/Improve_User_Experience) >>> and claimed that we wanted to Innovate in Free Knowledge ( >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Movement_Strategy/Recommendations/Innovate_in_Free_Knowledge). >>> Well, the situation is now worse than it was seven years ago, let me give >>> some examples: >>> >>> >>> - Graph extension is used in thousands of pages, some of them highly >>> relevant, as COVID or Climate Change information. There are thousands of >>> graphs broken now, and the only partial solution give is loading these >>> graphs as images, instead of promoting an interactive solution. >>> - Meanwhile, a place like Our World in Data has been publishing data >>> and interactive content with a compatible license for years. (Remember, >>> "*By >>> 2030, Wikimedia will become the essential infrastructure of the ecosystem >>> of free knowledge*"). Trying to add this data and graphs to >>> Wikimedia projects has been done by WikiMed, and it is technically >>> possible, but still blocked to deploy ( >>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T303853). >>> - Wolfram Alpha is like a light year ahead us on giving interactive >>> solutions to knowledge questions, even the silliest ones ( >>> >>> https://www.wolframalpha.com/input?i=how+many+oranges+fit+in+the+Earth%3F). >>> We have good technical articles about a lot of things, but sometimes >>> "*becoming >>> the essential infrastructure of the ecosystem of free knowledge*" >>> needs to provide solutions to exact problems, like the answer to an >>> equation, and how to solve it. That's also "free knowledge". >>> - Brilliant (https://brilliant.org/) is brilliant if you want to >>> learn lots of things, like geometry or programming. Way better than >>> Wikipedia. But... you need to pay for it. How could we even try if we >>> can't >>> add anything interactive to our platforms? >>> - We can build interactive timelines using Wikidata, but we can't >>> embed them at Wikipedia. Weird, because I can do it in any external page. >>> Hopefully, Histropedia will do it better. http://histropedia.com/ >>> <http://histropedia.com/> >>> - We could have something very special: inline links in video and >>> audio subtitles. We used to have them, but the new video infrastructure >>> doesn't allow it. Imagine a world where you can watch a video and link a >>> link in the subtitles just to know more about that. >>> - ... >>> >>> >>> The list can go on an on ("which phase the moon is today?"), but I think >>> that the idea is clear. We could have interactive content, but we are going >>> in the opposite direction, and every year we are further from our goal, >>> because other platforms are doing it better, way better. And this seems >>> like some wild ideas, but then I read the 2023-2024 annual plan section >>> called "Wiki Experiences" ( >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Annual_Plan/2023-2024/Goals/Infrastructure#Bucket:_Wiki_Experiences) >>> and it looks like we should be going there. But we aren't. >>> >>> I'm sorry if this e-mail feels bitter. My experience in the last years >>> is that we are now further of what we need that we were before, even if >>> many chapters and volunteers are trying to overturn it. >>> >>> Thank to everyone who have been trying. >>> >>> Galder >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >>> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >>> Public archives at >>> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/T3TDXNOYBO2OUJVSKBOEFLY4I34YEA5B/ >>> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] >>> >> >> >> -- >> *Iván Martínez* >> >> *Voluntario - Wikimedia México A.C.User:ProtoplasmaKid * >> >> // Mis comunicaciones respecto a Wikipedia/Wikimedia pueden tener una >> moratoria en su atención debido a que es un voluntariado. >> // Ayuda a proteger a Wikipedia, dona ahora: https://donate.wikimedia.org >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines >> at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l >> Public archives at >> https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/CUBBMYJFGWU3PAJIM3GQB6SRZWQSBNPY/ >> To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected] > > > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list -- [email protected], guidelines > at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > Public archives at > https://lists.wikimedia.org/hyperkitty/list/[email protected]/message/HP6TUVQN64FZ6H7V6HGPH65SL337RE5V/ > To unsubscribe send an email to [email protected]
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