Bill/Will mentioned this might be a new organisational chart
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Organizational_chart>of the Wikimedia
Foundation. Of course, visuals differ depending on what you are trying to
visualize.

This one
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Wikimedia_structure_and_government_-_Community_Content_Moderation_and_the_DSA.pdf&page=6>
for instance would be more along the lines of what you, Dgg, are
mentioning: how the different parties are involved in our projects. This one
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Wikimedia_structure_and_government_-_Community_Content_Moderation_and_the_DSA.pdf&page=12>
would be more about how content on the projects is governed, and the
different layers in responsibilities we have. This one
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Educatie_Universiteit_van_Amsterdam_14_november_2017.pdf&page=31>
is more about how content is added to projects (example in this case:
Wikimedia Commons): this is
<https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Wikimedia_structure_and_government_-_Community_Content_Moderation_and_the_DSA.pdf&page=7>
a visualisation on the parties that re-use our content outside of the
projects.

It would probably be impractical (or impossible even?) to put *everything*
in* one* visual without the purpose of the illustration becoming too broad,
and the chart or visual therefore surpassing its purpose (visual support
for a concept).

Vriendelijke groet,
Ciell


Op vr 9 jul. 2021 om 23:16 schreef Dggenwp <[email protected]>:

> The projects are the route by  which content is added to Wikipedia. The
> purpose of Wikipedia is not to have an organisation—the purpose  is to have
> and distribute free content. Everything else is superstructure—everything
> except the individual volunteers and the projects. This superstructure can
> be important, but not essential — the volunteers are capable of organising
> themselves and maintaining the projects. The foundation by itself is
> capable of almost nothing, as it doesn’t add content. The chapters are of
> value, primarily in recruiting contributors—without that, they’d just be
> social clubs.
>
> The volunteers and the projects to which they add content are what
> matters. The three key functions of the organisation are maintaining
> MediaWiki  (but that’s a volunteer effort also) in raising the small amount
> of essential funding, and the critically important political work of
> supporting freedom of the internet and of speech more generally. But our
> influence for this is because people in the world use the content the
> volunteers add to the projects. The structure must be organised around
> them. We are here to build an encyclopaedia.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Jul 7, 2021, at 12:59 AM, Željko Blaće <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Tuesday, July 6, 2021, Ciell Wikipedia <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Bill, I always find organisation charts very much enlightening,
>> and have been missing something like it for the WMF for some time now.
>>
>
> I feel the same. We need much much more of diagramatic content and higher
> level of organizational understanding for all Wikimedia contributors.
>
>
>
>> I think all the departments of the WMF-side are equal, right? For
>> instance, legal has no higher 'status' then fundraising or research:
>> employees are equals, just with a different function in the
>> organisation.Therefore all the different departments should be presented in
>> a horizontal line, not a vertical one, like in this one
>> <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Organisational_Chart.JPG> for
>> example.
>>
>
> Kind of good point, but maybe scale (same size) is enough to represent
> equals, rather than direction/orientation? Not an expert.
>
> BTW.
> .svg file export would be best
> for the posibility of translation
> within Wikimedia Commons ;-)
>
>
> Best, Z.
>
>
>> Vriendelijke groet,
>> Ciell
>>
>>
>> Op di 6 jul. 2021 om 01:03 schreef Bill Takatoshi <
>> [email protected]>:
>>
>>> Earlier today I tried to predict what the WMF org chart will look
>>> like, but I wasn't confident about my suggestion, so I created a new
>>> email account, subscribed it to wikimedia-l, and tried to send from
>>> there. I learned that new subscribers are moderated, which seems
>>> sensible given the level of trolling and disruption, and have since
>>> improved the prediction and become more confident about it. I have
>>> since learned that HTML email with embedded email attachments aren't
>>> allowed either, so, Moderators, please reject my earlier anonymous
>>> submission(s).
>>>
>>> This is what I predict the Wikimedia organizational chart will look
>>> like in one year's time:
>>>
>>>  https://i.ibb.co/HPzpqLt/WMF-orgchart.png
>>>
>>> Please critique it! If you are running for the Board of Directors, I
>>> am especially interested in your critique of this prediction.
>>>
>>> Thank you!
>>>
>>> -Will
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