Hi Lisa,

OK, so who in the Wikimedia movement is reviewing the funding applications and 
deciding where the money that Tides has been entrusted with gets spent?

Thanks,
Mike

> On 14 Dec 2020, at 21:17, Lisa Gruwell <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Mike-
> 
> Thanks for the question.  The review and oversight that we will get from 
> Tides is nothing like the FDC review.  They will be looking at, for example, 
> "Is this grant supporting activity that is legal for a 501c3 to fund?"  It is 
> in no way a replacement for the work that the FDC or the Global Council would 
> do regarding grants.
> 
> Best,
> Lisa
> 
> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 12:55 PM Michael Peel <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Hi Lisa,
> 
> Isn’t this the oversight work that the WMF wanted to be able to do when it 
> changed from Wikimedia affiliates being able to fundraise directly to the FDC 
> process? Why has WMF chosen to outsource this to Tides rather than continuing 
> to do it in-house? And why does Tides now get to approve such grants, rather 
> than a community appointed committee?
> 
> FDC was a process that worked extremely well, and was discontinued for 
> obscure reasons. The Global Council approach that the strategy was heading 
> towards looked like it might be a good replacement. Outsourcing it to Tides 
> seems really bad.
> 
> Boldly creating a new fund for fellow organisations looks nice, but without 
> community involvement it’s a controversy in development.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
> 
>> On 14 Dec 2020, at 20:11, Lisa Gruwell <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Chris-
>> 
>> I am happy to answer your questions about Tides.  No, Tides is not picking 
>> the grantees.  The docket of grantees and the specific of the grants comes 
>> from us.  Tides provides legal and administrative review of the grants,  
>> approves them, and processes the grants(i.e. wires the funding to the 
>> grantees).  It is rare that there is ever a problem, but if Tides were to 
>> see one, we actually appreciate the outside review and would be open to 
>> hearing their reasons.  There is no change for the reporting and 
>> transparency requirements for APG grants. Tides will also not be making 
>> recommendations for the grants for the Knowledge Equity Fund.  They will 
>> play a similar role as I described for the APG grants. Again, I know there 
>> will be more info on the Knowledge Equity Fund in the new year.  I ask your 
>> patience for the folks initiating this and trust that they will share more 
>> soon.
>> 
>> Best,
>> Lisa
>> 
>> On Mon, Dec 14, 2020 at 10:18 AM Chris Keating <[email protected] 
>> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>> Thanks Lisa. That statement makes a lot of sense, though I do have some 
>> questions still.
>> 
>> Our first priority was to ensure that we had enough funding to support 
>> community grants. We transferred the full amount for Annual Plan Grants 
>> (APG) for FY20-21 over to Tides to ensure that all funding for affiliates 
>> for this year was secured, regardless of how fundraising performed. It also 
>> gives staff at affiliates and the Foundation more time to work together to 
>> make thoughtful grants, instead of an end-of-year rush. All affiliates who 
>> will be receiving funding through Tides were informed of the arrangement 
>> last summer. All other grantmaking (Community Grants, Rapid Grants, Project 
>> Grants) are still being funded through WMF directly, as usual. There is a 
>> round of APG grants set to go out via Tides this week.
>> 
>> Are Tides simply administering these funds at the WMF's direction, or will 
>> Tides start to take over decisions about who gets these grants and what 
>> amount different entities are eligible for? Has there been any change to the 
>> reporting and transparency requirements that go with the APG grants? What is 
>> the intention about how APG grants will work, since the FDC was abolished a 
>> couple of years ago and there is unlikely to be any community-driven 
>> replacement for it until at least a year or two's work has gone into the 
>> implementation of the strategy?
>>  
>> As of now, this is a one-time commitment of approximately $4.5 million. We 
>> are still working on the specific initial objectives of the fund and how it 
>> will operate. As a pilot initiative, we’ll be learning and adapting as we 
>> go. 
>> 
>> Funding knowledge equity sounds like a great idea, but I have not previously 
>> heard of an organisation making an irrecoverable $4.5 million transfer 
>> without knowing what that money will be used to fund. Is there anything more 
>> that can be shared apart from "it'll be used to fund knowledge equity 
>> somehow"? And as above - is this going to be a WMF-led process (maybe even 
>> involving the community), or will Tides be actually making recommendations 
>> about who and what is funded? If the latter, how are Tides going to adjust 
>> to the Wikimedia community's expectations about transparency?
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> Chris
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