look, I have spoken with dozen of artists so far, the missing opportunity in almost zero. The cost of the confusion and the waste of time is still a lot. I have stopped even trying, I simply say immediately "of course you would like to give NC, you can't, because there are strong ideological positions. Plus OTRS is far from efficient, so let's just focus on something else". They appreciate my pragmatism and I use the credit to upload more content on other issues. Fine with me, I like to have good credit with competent people. Sorry for Wiki. Il domenica 12 luglio 2020, 09:31:12 CEST, Benjamin Lees <[email protected]> ha scritto: On Sat, Jul 11, 2020 at 9:20 PM Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <[email protected]> wrote:
Are we really sure he would have done something in any case if we did not provide such options? It's pretty hard to be sure about the hypothetical behavior of individuals. Undoubtedly, as you say, there are some people who are only willing to submit material to us if it is NC, and thus we currently lose out on material from them. Undoubtedly, as Erik says, there are also some people who submit material to us under a free license but would choose an NC license if it were available, and thus we currently gain the benefit of their work being freely licensed, rather than NC. I suspect the latter pool is far larger than the former. When the choice is truly between a particular non-free image and not having any image, fair use (for projects with fair use policies) already allows us to use that image. In other cases, it may be that no free image is available right now, but someone can go out and take one. There would be much less incentive to do so if we were already using an NC image, so such stopgaps would likely become permanent. Of course, there will be attractive edge cases where we can fairly confidently say "the choice is NC or nothing". But we cannot be ruled by edge cases; we must weigh them against the costs of complexity, confusion, and unfairness that we would be creating for ourselves (to say nothing of the additional headache we would create for reusers). Emufarmers _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
