As a quick/rough data point  I don't frequently edit wikipedia anymore, and
when I do I never log in.

About 2/3 edits no further interactions happen. About 10% gets reverted,
about 10% of the time I get a warning and the last 10% I get a welcome
template.



On Thu, Feb 27, 2020, 15:52 Marshall Miller <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Thanks for mentioning the WMF Growth team [1], Pine.  This is a really
> interesting thread that has touched on much of what the team has been
> working on alongside the Czech, Korean, Arabic, and Vietnamese Wikipedia
> communities (and with the advice of people from many different communities
> along the way).
>
> We've tried to base our approach in research on newcomers, which taught us
> that newcomers face three main types of challenges: technical, conceptual,
> and cultural [2].  For instance, the research tells us that the rules of
> the wiki are hard to learn, and that a negative first interaction can cause
> a newcomer to leave the wiki and not return -- but that a positive
> interaction, such as getting advice from a friendly editor, can cause them
> to stay.
>
> Over the last year and a half, we have experimented on mid-size Wikipedias
> with features that promote good communication between new and experienced
> users [3], that help newcomers teach themselves [4], and that give
> newcomers easy tasks to do [5].  The goal is to build an experience for
> newcomers that helps them get on a positive track in their first days on
> the wiki, and want to stick around to join their communities.  It's
> possible that what we've learned and built so far will apply differently to
> the largest Wikipedias.
>
> I hope that anyone who is interested in newcomers can tell us about their
> own experiences and ideas on our team's discussion page [6], or on the
> discussion pages of any of our projects.  It's very important to us that
> the things we build fit in with how communities work today.  Over the next
> year, we're planning to expand the Growth features to more wikis, so we
> definitely want to talk to people who think the features might be a good
> fit for their wikis.
>
> To keep informed about the Growth team, please subscribe to our newsletter
> [7].
>
> [1] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth
> [2] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/New_Editor_Experiences
> [3]
>
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Personalized_first_day/Newcomer_homepage#Mentorship_module
> [4] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Focus_on_help_desk
> [5]
> https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Personalized_first_day/Newcomer_tasks
> [6] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Talk:Growth
> [7] https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Growth/Newsletters
>
> On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 3:07 AM Vi to <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > Not really, drawing practical advices/lessons (e.g. "differentiate among
> > kinds of COIs") is the only sensible path towards solving issues.
> > "Let's be kind" is close to a tautology.
> >
> > Vito
> >
> > Il giorno mer 26 feb 2020 alle ore 09:59 Andy Mabbett <
> > [email protected]> ha scritto:
> >
> > > On Tue, 25 Feb 2020 at 20:36, Vi to <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hard to tell anything without the relevant link(s).
> > >
> > > For you, maybe. Others have already given helpful replies.
> > >
> > > My question was generic, and not about the specific case I gave as an
> > > example.
> > >
> > > I chose not to post links to to the example, both in order to avoid a
> > > pile-on, and to avoid us being distracted by the minutiae of the
> > > incident concerned.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Andy Mabbett
> > > @pigsonthewing
> > > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk
> > >
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