To help with overly "shouty" templates, I did create https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:Fae/talk_page_trimmer <https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User_talk:F%C3%A6/talk_page_trimmer> on Commons which 'shrinks' long notices on the presumption that noting a possible "copyright problem" does not need lots of threats because not everyone is a vandal. The code is open source, it's very stable and anyone on Commons can opt-in.
A system of "friendly notice alternative bots" which newbies could opt-in to if they act in good faith and want to take policies seriously could help to make any project seem less hostile. Anyone that does something like ask for help at a noticeboard, does not need to be shouted at by torch-wielding villagers. I recall several newbies fleeing the project after getting just a couple of very shouty notices and presuming everyone thought they were a crimmo. Fae On Thu, 20 Feb 2020 at 01:50, Samuel Klein <[email protected]> wrote: > It would be nice to have a tool for long standing editors to clean up a > newbies talk page for them, leave messages for the overeager templaters, > and help them out / welcome them in untemolsted language. > > Then a little ML could go a long way in guessing which newbies are in this > situation and generating a queue for newbie-care. ~~~ > > 🌍🌏🌎🌑 > > On Wed., Feb. 19, 2020, 4:35 p.m. Andy Mabbett, <[email protected] > > > wrote: > > > I have just come across a case on en.Wikipedia where the daughter of > > an article subject added details of his funeral (his death in 1984,w > > as already recorded) and his view about an indent in his life. > > > > Her six sequential edits - her first and only contribution to > > Wikipedia - totalled 1254 characters, and were conducted over the > > space of 30 minutes. They were no the best quality, lacking sources, > > but were benign, and exactly what one might expect an untutored novice > > to do as a first change. > > > > As well as being reverted, she now has three templates on her talk > > page; two warning her of a CoI, and sandwiching one notifying her of a > > discussion about her on the COI noticeboard. These total 4094 > > characters or 665 words. > > > > How do other projects deal with such cases? > > > > -- > > Andy Mabbett > > @pigsonthewing > > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > -- [email protected] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Fae _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
