This whole subject raises interesting and important legal and ethical issues, but are there any direct implications at this time for Wikipedia/Wikimedia projects?
Newyorkbrad/IBM On Sunday, January 19, 2020, Ryan Merkley <[email protected]> wrote: > I don't believe it implies that. As with many things legal, the answer re: > derivatives is likely "it depends". > > R. > > On Sat, Jan 18, 2020, 10:30 PM Benjamin Ikuta <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > Thanks for that. > > > > Pardon me if I've missed something, but that seems to imply, but not > > directly state, that AI training is a derivative work; could you clarify > > that? > > > > > > > > On Jan 18, 2020, at 2:58 PM, Ryan Merkley <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > [My comments are my own, and don’t reflect or suggest any official > > position from WMF] > > > > > > The NBC story linked below come out about a year ago. Around the same > > time, when I was CEO at Creative Commons, we published a statement and > > updated FAQs that attempted to respond to questions being asked about > > permitted uses and attribution related to the licenses. > > > > > > CC’s statement (March 2019) is here: > > https://creativecommons.org/2019/03/13/statement-on- > shared-images-in-facial-recognition-ai/ > > < > > https://creativecommons.org/2019/03/13/statement-on- > shared-images-in-facial-recognition-ai/ > > > > > > The FAQs are here: > > https://creativecommons.org/faq/#artificial-intelligence-and-cc-licenses > < > > https://creativecommons.org/faq/#artificial-intelligence-and-cc-licenses > > > > > > > > r. > > > > > > _____________________________ > > > > > > Ryan Merkley (he/him) > > > Chief of Staff, Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/ > > > > > > > > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > > > @ryanmerkley <https://twitter.com/ryanmerkley> > > > +1 416 802 0662 > > > > > >> On Jan 18, 2020, at 2:14 PM, John Erling Blad <[email protected]> > wrote: > > >> > > >> There are several reports of face recognition going mainstream, often > > >> in less than optimum circumstances, and often violating copyright and > > >> licenses > > >> > > >> > > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/18/technology/clearview- > privacy-facial-recognition.html > > >> > > https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/internet/facial-recognition-s- > dirty-little-secret-millions-online-photos-scraped-n981921 > > >> https://www.ibm.com/blogs/research/2019/01/diversity-in-faces/ > > >> > > >> In my opinion building a model for face recognition is a derived work, > > >> and as such must credit the photographers. That pose a real problem > > >> when the photographers counts in the millions and billions. Even a 1px > > >> fine print would be troublesome! > > >> > > >> What is the official stance on this? Is it a copyright infringement or > > >> not, does the license(s) cover the case or not? > > >> > > >> John Erling Blad > > >> /jeblad > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > >> New messages to: [email protected] > > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l > , > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
