As Srishti says, community wishlist items tend to be very under-defined, with open-ended and ambiguous deliverables, and exist in complex spaces. These things are okay because the people handling them are professionals who are trained specifically to distill open-ended projects into specific deliverables, and because the contract with community wishlist items is specifically *not* that the items will be done, but that the items will be evaluated and responded to.
On the other hand, projects like GSoC are aimed at training and mentoring people new to software development on best practices, coding paradigms, and so on. The students need very well-defined, specific projects in order to succeed, and wishlist items tend not to have these characteristics. Simply funnelling wishlist items directly into GSoC would set up the participants for failure. So, some kind of refinement of the wishlist items is needed. Now, it *is* possible to distill certain wishlist items down into small, byte-sized, well-defined GSoC projects, for sure. But that will take time, user research, resourcing, etc. I think that's worth doing, but it is a resourcing question, and we need to ask the question of what other work the product folks will drop in order to make that happen. Dan On Wed, 27 Feb 2019 at 03:01, James Heilman <[email protected]> wrote: > We have a lot of amazing potential projects that just missed the selection > criteria for the community wish list in 2019 > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Community_Wishlist_Survey_2019/Results > > Would some of these quality as projects? > > James > > On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 2:11 PM Srishti Sethi <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Hello everyone, > > > > Wikimedia has been accepted as a mentor organization in the Google Summer > > of Code 2019 with 207 open source projects > > <https://opensource.googleblog.com/2019/02/gsoc-2019-organizations.html> > > :) > > And, application period for Outreachy Round 18 started last week. > > > > We have listed a few ideas for projects for both programs on MediaWiki > and > > we are looking for more. Unlike Google Summer of Code, Outreachy is open > to > > non-students and non-coders and projects could be around documentation, > > design, translation research, outreach, etc. View current list of ideas: > > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/2019 > > > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Round_18 > > > > Both these programs have a similar timeline for the summer round. > Accepted > > candidates will work with mentors from May to August 2019. If you are > > interested in mentoring a project, create a task on Phabricator and tag > it > > with #outreach-programs-projects and #Google-Summer-of-Code (2019) or > > #Outreachy (Round 18). You can also choose to mentor for projects already > > on outreach-programs-projects > > <https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/outreach-programs-projects/> > > workboard. Remember, every project must have two mentors. > > > > Some helpful resources for you: > > * Learn more about the roles and responsibilities of a mentor: > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Google_Summer_of_Code/Mentors > > https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Outreachy/Mentors > > > > * View full program timeline: > > https://developers.google.com/open-source/gsoc/timeline > > https://www.outreachy.org/apply/project-selection/ > > > > Looking forward to your participation! :) > > > > Cheers, > > > > Srishti, Derick and Pratyush (Wikimedia org admins) > > > > > > *Srishti Sethi* > > Developer Advocate > > Wikimedia Foundation <https://wikimediafoundation.org/> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > -- > James Heilman > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
