Just a quick message to clarify that the only conflict that ever existed in Wikimedia Portugal, as far as I know, was with João Vasconcelos himself.
Paulo Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <[email protected]> escreveu no dia quinta, 11/10/2018 à(s) 15:38: > The pro forma statement bout what a chapter is is valuable, but I think > many of us kinda got the idea that the problem was not the starting point > (otherwise why electing him?) but came later. It's possible that someone > else with more community experience would have never behaved such way, but > that's speculation. > > Statistically, in this scenario this lack of community view probably did > not help. Whatever his skills in "management and conflict resolution" were, > even assuming they were correctly stated based on previous expertise in > other fields, they were not the best ones to handle the conflicts that > later emerged. Also, considering the resolution we see now, which is not a > great resolution. > The point is that in all these disputes (I think about Brazil few months > ago) it looks like the AffCom position sounds like "you are both wrong". > Now, this is never a healthy long-term strategy. If it occurs again, it > gives more and more the idea that whoever is in the less correct position > can hold still because if the matter arrives to the AffCom everybody pays > equally. I am sure the situation is more multifaceted, but let's try to > grasp the general vibe here. > > This is not wise. King Solomon solved the issue bluffing and spotting the > real mother, he never actually cut the baby in two halves ... But wisdom > comes also with experience. > Il giovedì 11 ottobre 2018, 15:43:01 CEST, GoEthe.wiki < > [email protected]> ha scritto: > > Hi Illario, > > Apologies, I probably explained myself poorly. I never said that a chapter > is a representative of the Wikimedia community, rather I was trying to > explain that João’s claimed experience (emphasis on claimed) in management > and conflict resolution was a major factor in him being elected to the > Board. At the time, WMPT thought that that could be very valuable to the > chapter. So, we agree, a heterogeneous board is absolutely an advantage, > but in this case the issue was not one of diversity, but rather of > competence and alignment to the movement goals and principles. > > In practice, he did not contribute to the management of the chapter, and he > was not prepared to an increase of the chapter activities. He very quickly > started demonstrating uneasiness with any procedural decision he did not > personally vet (which are imperative in volunteer-based, collaborative > projects), and soon after, without any previous warning, started sending > legal threats going as far as using a lawyer to intimidate one of our most > active members on behalf of WMPT (without discussing it with anyone > beforehand), and resigned. > > We have no intention to expose João even more in this public mailing list, > so we will not provide a comprehensive list of the problems we found with > his term on the board. But to make it clear, when this whole issue began to > be addressed, even though we did not ask him to stay on the Board, we did > invite him to continue on the chapter, working with us, as AffCom can > confirm. Just not in any role with legal responsibilities. > > > Cheers, > Gonçalo Themudo > > *Presidente* > *Wikimedia Portugal* > *Email: *[email protected] > *Website: *http://pt.wikimedia.org <https://sites.google.com/view/themudo> > *Imagine um mundo onde cada ser humano pode partilhar livremente a soma de > todo o conhecimento, na sua própria língua.* > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
