Just a quick message to clarify that the only conflict that ever existed in
Wikimedia Portugal, as far as I know, was with João Vasconcelos himself.

Paulo

Alessandro Marchetti via Wikimedia-l <[email protected]>
escreveu no dia quinta, 11/10/2018 à(s) 15:38:

>  The pro forma statement bout what a chapter is is valuable, but I think
> many of us kinda got the idea that the problem was not the starting point
> (otherwise why electing him?) but came later. It's possible that someone
> else with more community experience would have never behaved such way, but
> that's speculation.
>
> Statistically, in this scenario this lack of community view probably did
> not help. Whatever his skills in "management and conflict resolution" were,
> even assuming they were correctly stated based on previous expertise in
> other fields, they were not the best ones to handle the conflicts that
> later emerged. Also, considering the resolution we see now, which is not a
> great resolution.
> The point is that in all these disputes (I think about Brazil few months
> ago) it looks like the AffCom position sounds like "you are both wrong".
> Now, this is never a healthy long-term strategy. If it occurs again, it
> gives more and more the idea that whoever is in the less correct position
> can hold still because if the matter arrives to the AffCom everybody pays
> equally. I am sure the situation is more multifaceted, but let's try to
> grasp the general vibe here.
>
>  This is not wise. King Solomon solved the issue bluffing and spotting the
> real mother, he never actually cut the baby in two halves ... But wisdom
> comes also with experience.
>    Il giovedì 11 ottobre 2018, 15:43:01 CEST, GoEthe.wiki <
> [email protected]> ha scritto:
>
>  Hi Illario,
>
> Apologies, I probably explained myself poorly. I never said that a chapter
> is a representative of the Wikimedia community, rather I was trying to
> explain that João’s claimed experience (emphasis on claimed) in management
> and conflict resolution was a major factor in him being elected to the
> Board. At the time, WMPT thought that that could be very valuable to the
> chapter. So, we agree, a heterogeneous board is absolutely an advantage,
> but in this case the issue was not one of diversity, but rather of
> competence and alignment to the movement goals and principles.
>
> In practice, he did not contribute to the management of the chapter, and he
> was not prepared to an increase of the chapter activities. He very quickly
> started demonstrating uneasiness with any procedural decision he did not
> personally vet (which are imperative in volunteer-based, collaborative
> projects), and soon after, without any previous warning, started sending
> legal threats going as far as using a lawyer to intimidate one of our most
> active members on behalf of WMPT (without discussing it with anyone
> beforehand), and resigned.
>
> We have no intention to expose João even more in this public mailing list,
> so we will not provide a comprehensive list of the problems we found with
> his term on the board. But to make it clear, when this whole issue began to
> be addressed, even though we did not ask him to stay on the Board, we did
> invite him to continue on the chapter, working with us, as AffCom can
> confirm. Just not in any role with legal responsibilities.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Gonçalo Themudo
>
> *Presidente*
> *Wikimedia Portugal*
> *Email: *[email protected]
> *Website: *http://pt.wikimedia.org <https://sites.google.com/view/themudo>
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> todo o conhecimento, na sua própria língua.*
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