That Google ad (describing Wikipedia as the fact-checked encyclopedia) is still the top result when I search for “wikipedia” in Australia.
On Wed, 18 Apr 2018 at 8:57 pm, Isaac Olatunde <[email protected]> wrote: > Leigh, I disagree that all projects are hostile to outsiders. When someone > edit in a language they do not speak and use machine to translate contents > for example and refused to stop after multiple warnings, a block in such > case may not be considered an "hostile" response. That being said, I > completely agree with Rob that fact-checked encyclopedia is more > appropriate considering the hostility in some language Wikipedia, notably > the English Wikipedia. How do you describe a Wikipedia where someone create > their first article and got deleted and when the page creator approached > the deleting admin on why their article got deleted and the response they > received is "Kindly have the decency to create a decent article ", "count > yourself lucky, I don't talk to IP address "? > > Regards, > > Isaac. > > > On Apr 15, 2018 3:21 PM, "Leigh Thelmadatter" <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > Not just English Wikipedia. All of the projects are hostile to > "outsiders" > > Those not in English might even be worse for several reasons > > > > Enviado desde mi LG de Telcel > > > > ------ Original message------ > > From: Robert Fernandez > > Date: Sun, Apr 15, 2018 9:17 AM > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List; > > Cc: > > Subject:Re: [Wikimedia-l] The fact-checked encyclopedia > > > > Considering the barriers to entry, growing thicket of policies, > > organized group harassment, and open hostility on the English > > Wikipedia, I'm not sure we can even call it "the encyclopedia anyone > > can edit" anymore. So I'd say fact-checked is a more accurate and > > relevant claim these days. > > > > On Sun, Apr 15, 2018 at 8:53 AM, Anthony Cole <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > I just googled “wikipedia” and the first result was a Google ad linking > > to > > > wikipedia.org.[1] It calls Wikipedia the fact-checked encyclopedia. We > > used > > > to call it the encyclopedia anyone can edit. The latter seems more > honest > > > than this new formulation which to me implies a degree of reliability > and > > > oversight I'm not sure we can ethically assert. I missed the discussion > > > about this new self-description. Did it happen on meta? Is anyone else > > > uncomfortabe with this? > > > -- > > > Anthony Cole > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > > wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> -- Anthony Cole _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
