> To be honest, 25-30% of WMFR members is quite a lot. And, don't > forget, include roughly half of the Wikimedia France Board elected at > the last General Assembly. > > This isn't the first governance crisis in the Wikimedia movement (WMF > and other chapters have certainly had them) but it is probably the > biggest and most long-drawn-out. >
Of course, it's quite a lot: that's why a special meeting is scheduled to discuss of all that and the biggest part of the discussion will be driven by the people who are not happy. But still, 70-75% of the members are happy with the organisation and never ask them anything, nobody tries to listen to them. We should try to include everyone, even the shy ones, even those who just work and don't consider themselves as potentiol bosses... not only the few who knows who to talk to, where to write, to have their personal wills fulfilled And you are totally right, this is not the first crisis; this is actually the point. Every two years, some people complain and ask question about the general strategy: should the organisation grow or not, what should be the relations between employees and members, what are the main goals, etc. Then everybody work together to build a strategic plan, to take decisions ; the plan is implemented... and two years after that those who weren't happy at that time, some new members, etc. want to begin from scratch one more time. It's very hard to have a long-term strategy and developpment if there is no trust in what members have done before. And it's above all a real problem for the employees who can never be sure their job won't be at risk a few months after. > > > And those people refuse to acknowledge reality, even when the > > board explains everything, even when lawyers explains what can and > cannot be done within a chapter. > > To my mind the board's "explanations" are part of the problem. Reading > the statements from WMFR about the FDC process, or their emails to > members or their response to the timeline - it's all about how WMFR > has never been wrong about anything. All the criticism is wrong (and > probably a conspiracy). WMFR's board has been doing the only thing > they could possibly have done. All of this is repeated again and > again. > > That is a dysfunctional response to the situation. A significant part > of the French Wikimedia community has lost confidence in WMFR. The > Board should be working to restore that confidence, and the more it > denies the problem is real, the worse the result will be. > Well, the problem is that... it's not really clear what the problem is... They always talk about "what happens", "the situation"... but it's very hard to understand what specific problem there is. I mean, to have another answer than "a gouvernance problem" and another ideas than "we should fire the director, another employee and ask the board to resign". The people organizing the next general meeting want an audit... but there have been two in a few months, and we are waiting for the conclusion of the Foundation (some people came in Paris a few weeks ago): what new can an audit find? They want to create a commission against conflits of interest... but it already exist (within the board, it can be widened, I totally agree) and some of their leaders precisely left because they wouldn't sign the conflit of interest statement! They want to reinstate not only the people whose admission have been refused but all the members who have been excluded... but no member have ever been excluded! It's really hard to speak and be understood (once more, Anthere asks a question about something she doesn't know, about a fact; I answer to her with the very fact, and she says "I don't agree". What can you answer to that?) I think everybody counted on the Foundation mission to facilitate the dialogue, we really hope it will happen. And anyway, I think most of the board cannot deal with the harasment anymore and will resign. This is just a terrible waste of energy, good will and work. Back to 2008... with a lot of frustration from those who gave a lot of free time and competence to the development of the chapter R > > Regards, > > Chris > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
