Hello Josh,
The WMF and the AffCom have decided not to disclose further details of
the very serious governance issues in order not to hurt the movement and
the reputation of the people involved. Please, avoid misleading and
adding drama to this situation -which is already difficult, and damages
the movement as a whole. WMPH was given very specific recommendations of
what do and what not to do, but decided to go its own way.
M.
El 25/04/2017 a las 06:17 a.m., Josh Lim escribió:
If you folks seriously think that we weren’t being “accountable”, then
I have serious doubts about how this process will remain sustainable.
I’m sorry, but this process has been exceedingly demotivating for
everyone involved. I’ve been trying to keep myself composed
throughout the entire process, but at this point I simply cannot.
I will gladly admit that we’ve made mistakes, us more than others.
Every organization does. But I will not allow the work that I’ve
dedicated over a decade of my life to be thrown out the window because
we weren’t “accountable”. To the best of our ability, we WERE
accountable to our community and to the movement. And I, frankly,
feet that we were as accountable as we could’ve been.
You may all want to know why I’ve been silent through this entire
process. It’s because I cannot, and I still cannot, process the grief
this entire process has brought upon Wikimedia Philippines, and
especially myself. I will try to be optimistic about the future, as
people have been telling me to do, but at this point in time, at least
have some respect for the work that we’ve done over the last six
years. That’s really all I’m asking for at this point.
Thanks,
Josh
On Apr 23, 2017, at 9:41 PM, James Heilman <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I second Itzik's comments. We need some degree of accountability.
Hopefully this will encourage groups in the Philippines to become
more active again.
James
On Sun, Apr 23, 2017 at 2:14 AM, Itzik - Wikimedia
Israel<[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:
Thank you Maor for the update.
We usually love to see our movement expend and welcome
recognition of new
organizations, but I strongly believe that we continuously need
to check
and evaluate our current organizations.
Our brand, name and reputation are part of our core assets - and
while it's
not an easy step, I appreciate Affcom efforts not only to
recognize new
ones but also to de-recognize organizations that are not longer
active or
non-compliance with our movement requirements.
Few weeks ago in Berlin we had a first meeting to start discuses
what is a
"movement accountability" and how we evaluate organizations who
operate
outside of the FDC process and I believe Affcom have a
significant part in
it.
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> Dear all,
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> *Recognition as a Wikimedia affiliate - a chapter, thematic
organization,
> or user group - allows an independent group to officially use
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> On September 9, 2016, Wikimedia Philippines was notified of their
> suspension as a Wikimedia affiliate due to long standing and
serious
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requirements
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regarding them,
> and on the date mentioned above, was provided with an explicit
list of
> tasks and deadlines in order to return to compliance with their
chapter
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deadline of
> November 28, 2016, and was consequently notified that they
would no longer
> be recognized as a Wikimedia chapter after the termination of
their Chapter
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