Should the Communications team hold a contest asking wikipedians to propose new trademarks for Beyond Meat and Impossible Foods?
Ref.: https://www.reddit.com/r/Futurology/comments/64yf80/labgrown_meat_is_about_to_go_global_and_one_firm/dg6frig/?context=3 On a more serious note, why don't we quantify and balance systemic bias in favor of far more pernicious threats? I.e., https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Economics#Tax_cut_claim_in_Fiscal_policy_section On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 12:36 AM Peter Southwood < [email protected]> wrote: > So the Americas favorite burger should have been "America's Favorite > Burger(tm)". Agreed. > Cheers, > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:[email protected]] On > Behalf Of FRED BAUDER > Sent: Saturday, April 15, 2017 8:21 AM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing companies > that offer paid editing services > > "The Whopper, also known as America’s favorite burger, " is a problem as > it implies that the Whopper is the favorite burger of the American public. > Perhaps it is, but that is a trademark, not the result of a survey. The > other stuff, "a flame-[[grilling|grilled]] patty made with 100% beef with > no preservatives, no fillers and is topped with daily sliced tomatoes and > onions, fresh lettuce, pickles, ketchup and mayo, served on a soft sesame > seed bun." happens to be factually true and cannot be said of the products > of, say, McDonalds where the "fixings" > arrive in delivery trucks. > > Fred Bauder > > On Sat, 15 Apr 2017 08:06:50 +0200 > "Peter Southwood" <[email protected]> wrote: > > James, > > Which parts of those statements to you consider factually inaccurate, > >and which parts do you consider misleading in some other way? > > Cheers, > > Peter > > > > -----Original Message----- > >From: Wikimedia-l [mailto:[email protected]] On > >Behalf Of James Heilman > > Sent: Friday, April 14, 2017 5:32 PM > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [arbcom-l] Where is WMF with pursuing > >companies that offer paid editing services > > > > Wikipedia is not for sale. We are not simply another advertising venue > >available to the corporations of the world. We have mechanisms for > >corporations to suggest changes to our content and it is called the > >talk page. > > > > Lets look at the changes likely made by Burger King staff in more > >detail: > > > > In this edit this sentence "The Whopper is a burger, consisting of a > >flame-grilled patty made with 100% beef with no preservatives, no > >fillers and is topped with daily sliced tomatoes and onions, fresh > >lettuce, pickles, ketchup and mayo, served on a soft sesame seed bun." > > > ><https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Whopper&type=revision&diff= > >773836335&oldid=773833110> > > was > > added not once but twice. And than was added again following its first > >removal. > > > > In this edit this sentence "The Whopper, also known as America’s > >favorite burger, has a flame-[[grilling|grilled]] patty made with 100% > >beef with no preservatives, no fillers and is topped with daily sliced > >tomatoes and onions, fresh lettuce, pickles, ketchup and mayo, served > >on a soft sesame seed bun. Whopper and America’s Favorite Burger are > >trademarks of Burger King Corporation. > > < > https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Whopper&diff=773807497&oldid=773585358 > >" > > was added. > > > > One of the accounts did not disclosed their relationship to the > >company in question. And yes this is spam, so they did spam Wikipedia. > >See [[WP:PEACOCK]] > ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Manual_of_Style/Words_to_watch > >#Puffery> > > and [[WP:NPOV]] > ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Five_pillars>, the latter of > >which is pillar number 2. > > > > > > This is not the first time the marketing department at a multi billion > >dollar company has tried to adjust our content for the company's / > >shareholder's gains. A few years back a couple of the heads of > >marketing at Medtronic > ><https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2015/08/wikipedia-editors > >-for-pay/393926/>, along with a number of physicians one of whom they > >had paid more than a quarter of a million dollars, tried to remove the > >best available evidence regarding vertebroplasty, a procedure which > >medicare spent at the time more than a billion dollars a year on. > >Half a dozen paid editors working together can easily get a majority in > >many of our decision making processes. > > > > Our readers deserve a Wikipedia which is written independently of the > >subject mater in question. Our readers have been harmed by undisclosed > >paid editing in the past. These are individuals typically less savvy > >and less wealthy than the executives at a large corporation. I am sorry > >but our readers are the ones that deserve our attention and our > >protection. We already have the Wifione case > ><http://www.newsweek.com/2015/04/03/manipulating-wikipedia-promote-bogu > >s-business-school-316133.html> were Wikipedia was used to promote an > >unethical Indian university and therefore we played a role in > >misleading the students who applied. We must do better. > > > > James > > > > On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 5:23 AM, Gnangarra <[email protected]> > >wrote: > > > >> but they didnt spam, nor did they introduce any false hoods, or > >>remove controversial content, they just put a description of the > >>Whopper for the opening sentence. As Andy said rather than biting > >>and creating arguments amongst ourselves would it not be better to > >>have used the opportunity to benefit the community in a positive way. > >> > >> On 14 April 2017 at 18:44, David Gerard <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > >> > On 14 April 2017 at 11:38, Andy Mabbett > >><[email protected]> > >> wrote: > >> > > >> > > A far better (and less WP:BITEy) outcome would be to get then to > >> > > >> > > >> > Pretty sure WP:BITE doesn't apply in the case of deliberate abuse > >> > for clear purposes of spamming. > >> > > >> > > >> > - d. > >> > > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >>https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> > wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >> > wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] > >> > Unsubscribe: > >> > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> > > >><mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> GN. > >> President Wikimedia Australia > >> WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra > >> Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com > >>_______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >>wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ > >>wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] > >> Unsubscribe: > >>https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > James Heilman > > MD, CCFP-EM, Wikipedian > > > > The Wikipedia Open Textbook of Medicine > >_______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > >https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: > >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > ><mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > >https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: > >https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > ><mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
