2017-03-20 11:04 GMT+02:00 Lodewijk <[email protected]>: > Hi Pine, > > it's always easier of course to tell other people what they have to change, > which is why I'm asking the opposite question too :) What can we change, on > our end, to make communications easier for the WMF, for community members > that want to reach out, for chapters and other affiliates. All these are > having a hard time to get useful input from the community.
Strictly for technical communication, there is https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Technical_Collaboration_Guidance which I have not seen mentioned here. When I last read it in detail, there were some sound ideas expressed there. Since then, the quantity of text has grown, but I see this is still a draft, so presumably one could still influence the outcome by commenting in the talk pages of the sections. One of the ideas I have mentioned there, in the context of changes which require community involvement was to encourage communities to subscribe their village pump to the tech news. Tech news come on a predictable schedule and include 95% of the important changes (with the percentage set to increase after the Guidance is approved). Strainu > > There seem very few generally accepted approaches to that: > - using some mailing list, or some kind of forum that serves a part of the > community you think would be most relevant (such as this mailing list, the > wikitech mailing list etc). > - Going all out and doing a full scale consultation/RfC with banners and > everything. Gives you lots of comments. > - Doing a broad and translated approach through village pumps etc - gives > you a broad reach over languages, but within those languages still reaches > a specific part of the community. > > Those methods are typically either very expensive, or not very effective. > And I'm only talking about getting input here, not even about 'informing' > everyone. > > So what can we, as a community, change to facilitate better exchange of > ideas, experiences and provide input? > > Best > Lodewijk > > PS: I apologize to the people who read this kind of email for the n'th > time, it's not the first time I talk about this, I guess :) > > 2017-03-20 7:40 GMT+01:00 Pine W <[email protected]>: > >> Attempting to summon Chris Schilling over here from the other thread. (: >> >> I think that some kind of analysis about optimal use of consultations and >> surveys would be beneficial, and I'd welcome seeing something like that in >> the next Annual Plan. Perhaps there might even be a consultation or survey >> about consultations or surveys, which I know sounds ironic but may be >> helpful in figuring out how much is too much or too little, timing, >> locations, etc. >> >> Information management is a big deal. We have watchlists, email, social >> media channels, Echo, and lots of other tools, but even so -- or perhaps >> because -- there are so many channels, it's easy to drown. I imagine that >> holds true for both staff and community members, and I'd welcome some >> initiatives to improve the situation. Perhaps someone will have some ideas >> that they can submit to IdeaLab. >> >> Pine >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >> wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/ >> wiki/Wikimedia-l >> New messages to: [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >> > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines and https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia-l New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
