On 3 Mar 2016, at 3:45 AM, Pete Forsyth <[email protected]> wrote: > > The message below went without response on the list, but there was a > significant off-list response. > > Jimmy Wales wrote to James Heilman, and CC'd me. His message professed to > praise this one, but missed its main points: > * There was no mention of professional mediation or facilitation to work > through disagreements > * Jimmy Wales had *even worse* things to say about James Heilman than he > has said in public. > > I won't repeat those words on a public list, but I am unimpressed with the > tactic of moving personal attacks off list. Jimmy's message was sent 48 > hours ago, and I immediately told him the things I've said here, but there > has been no response. > > We should not use off-list messages to convey thoughts that would be > completely unacceptable if said in public. I don't want to be involved in > stuff like that -- and I'd much rather it didn't happen to begin with. > > -Pete > [[User:Peteforsyth]]
If you didn’t solicit the email then I think you should make it public, and redact anything that might be dangerous to someone’s personal privacy. This is surprising and frankly very upsetting to hear. I have been critical of the WMF, and I have openly criticized actions that Jimmy has taken in public. But I never thought that I’d read that he’d send off-list messages disparaging James. It’s even worse than that actually - I’m assuming he stated things that he believes James did as a Board member, but said it to a non-Board member. I seem to recall a certain WMF Board member saying that he felt he couldn’t support James because he felt that he might not keep his issue confidential. Chris _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
