This touches on matters beyond my scope of expertise. I didn't write that FAQ, and I am not an expert on legal terminology like "mismanagement" or "misconduct". I support that the board and legal team review the matter seriously and generously.
All I'm saying is that if he is eligible, and if he is elected, then I support him rejoining the board. I'm putting forward that although I've been disappointed by his behavior (and thanks to Pete's wise words, I'm trying to open a private conversation to try to work through some of that) I am not in any way a key obstacle to his rejoining. On 2/29/16 6:35 AM, Ziko van Dijk wrote: > Hello Jimmy, > > Thank you for the note. I was wondering about the eligibility of > James, because the page > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_Board_noticeboard/James_Heilman_removal_FAQ#Can_James_be_a_candidate_for_a_community-selected_seat_again.3F > says: > "Due to the removal from the Board, James is not eligible to be a > candidate for the Board until the 2017 community selection process. > Under the Bylaws, the Board oversees the rules and procedures for the > community-selection process. If the Board determines that a candidate > does not meet eligibility criteria, it may decline to appoint the > candidate to the Board." > > Before 2017, James could be appointed to the board by the sitting > board members. Is he eligible for such an appointment? > > According to the 2015 board selection page, a candidate for the > community seats - and I assume that the rules for other seats are > comparable - has to meet some criteria, > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Foundation_elections/Board_elections/2015 > "Prerequisites to candidacy". > > If James was eligible in spring 2015, I guess that he is also eligible > at the moment. But why does the FAQ say that James is not eligible > "now" because of the removal? > > The "prerequisites" say: > "You must not have been removed from a position at a non-profit > organization or other company because of mismanagement or misconduct" > > So would this be a reason for not appointing James to the board, or > call him not eligible for the 2017 elections? Was James removed from > the WMF Board for "mismanagement or misconduct"? > > Kind regards > Ziko > > > > > > > > > > 2016-02-29 15:03 GMT+01:00 Amir E. Aharoni <[email protected]>: >> Nathan, as pretty much always, is correct. >> >> Everybody is tired of this mystery. >> >> I'm not blaming anybody - it's part of the unfortunate atmosphere of >> unnecessary secrecy, which plagued us for way too long. That's what creates >> the accusations and the wild rumors in all sides. We all have to fix it in >> ourselves. >> >> Simply telling everybody's stories fully and openly is the only right thing >> now. >> בתאריך 29 בפבר׳ 2016 15:53, "Nathan" <[email protected]> כתב: >> >>> On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 8:45 AM, Jimmy Wales <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> One of the things that someone asked me privately to discuss is what I >>>> think of the possibility of James running for the board again. >>>> >>>> First, I have no opinion about whether or not he will be eligible at the >>>> next election. That's a matter for people other than me to decide. I >>>> don't know. >>>> >>>> Second, if he is eligible, and if he runs, and if he wins, then I will >>>> support his joining the board. Because I've been willing to be vocal >>>> about what I view as his failures, people have sometimes gotten the >>>> mistaken impression that this is primarily a personal conflict between >>>> him and me. That's not true. Before the board vote to remove him, I >>>> told him that I would vote with the majority - because it is my feeling >>>> that on matters of trust, if he was unable to command the trust of at >>>> least the majority of other trustees, his position would be untenable. >>>> >>>> Third, it may interest you all to know that I did not and would not have >>>> instigated the meeting in which he was removed from the board. Indeed, >>>> I missed an online board meeting where things happened apparently that >>>> brought this to a head, and in the final meeting with James, I mainly >>>> inquired "What brought this up now?" as I thought things were settling >>>> down. >>>> >>>> Fourth, having said all of that, I remain very disappointed in James and >>>> the way he has spun this without coming forward with the community about >>>> what happened. He claimed reasons for his dismissal that everyone else >>>> on the board agrees unanimously are not the reasons. I haven't seen him >>>> acknowledge that he was wrong about that, and I haven't seen him own up >>>> to the things that actually upset people. >>>> >>>> There are many narratives being spun by people who weren't there, who >>>> have made all kinds of assumption that aren't true. >>>> >>> >>> There is a simple and easy way to rectify this: you and the other members >>> of the board can honestly and fully describe the circumstances that led you >>> to eject Heilman from the board. I've seen lots of indirect and >>> non-specific claims from both sides; I wish you would all stop making vague >>> assertions and just tell us what happened. I'm sure you can come up with >>> lots of reasons why you Simply Cannot Do That, but if that's the case then >>> maybe stop talking about it altogether. >>> _______________________________________________ >>> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >>> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >>> New messages to: [email protected] >>> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >>> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> New messages to: [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
