Jimmy,

I have a ridiculous amount of respect for you and what you have
accomplished. I have watched from afar (I was living a lot in other
countries) as this radical experiment in trust *exploded* on to the world.
It blew my mind. And some of the early rules that were set were nothing
short of genius (e.g. NPOV, AGF and due weight come to mind). It was an
ideal experiment: an open frontier with simple, limited rule sets. And the
icing on the cake is that "citation needed" ended up not just influencing
how I thought about an encyclopedic text, but how I thought about
discussing ideas.

So it is from that genuine respect base that I disagree with you on this
particular point:

"> I would love to know whether you supported Lila Tretikov's departure. It
is
> clear that she did not up and resign on her own, and I would like to know
> if you were one of the folks who thought her departure would be
beneficial,
> or if you preferred she "weather the storm," so to speak.

I supported it with sadness.  The whole thing is a sad train wreck."

I do not think this is a train wreck. I think this is one of the hottest
moments since this genius encyclopedia exploded onto the world.

People are engaged.

Rock on,
/a

On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:59 AM, Anna Stillwell <[email protected]>
wrote:

> "I don't think what Anna described requires "a build-out" of HR.  What I
> am reading is a description of what HR should *already be*, and,
> crucially, *once used to be*."
>
> You're exactly right, Asaf. That's what I meant. Thank you for the
> clarification.
>
> /a
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:53 AM, Asaf Bartov <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 11:37 AM, phoebe ayers <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > On Sat, Feb 27, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Anna Stillwell
>> > <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > > Before adding another layer of process and reporting and complexity
>> > > structurally, we should more likely try to renew the heart of HR and
>> > allow
>> > > them to work with Legal in partnership as they had done so well
>> > throughout
>> > > our entire history.
>> >
>> > Fair, and I certainly appreciate this. To be clear my idea is only for
>> > a temporary position -- only a few months at most, really -- and could
>> > certainly happen concurrently with such a build-out of HR.
>> >
>>
>> I don't think what Anna described requires "a build-out" of HR.  What I am
>> reading is a description of what HR should *already be*, and, crucially,
>> *once used to be*.
>>
>> I second Anna (who, by the way, *is* one of those "people other people
>> turn
>> to", or "unappointed toxin handlers" mentioned) in everything she said.
>> If
>> the board would choose to pay attention, it would find new behaviors in HR
>> that veer away from our values, and that occasionally violate WMF's own
>> stated policies.  (one quick example: formally censuring an employee [not
>> me] without their direct manager present, or even informed.)
>>
>> I encourage looking into this, and doing whatever is necessary to "renew
>> the heart of HR".
>>
>>    A.
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