Shani, This blog post by Jake and the Library team might suffice. It's from last year and directly addresses this issue:
http://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/09/16/open-access-in-a-closed-world/ ~ Keegan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Keegan On Feb 14, 2016 10:09 PM, "Shani" <[email protected]> wrote: > Would love to hear what the Wikipedia Library Project team has to say on > the issue. > > Pinging Jake Orlowitz & Alex Stinson. > > Shani. > > On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 5:46 AM, Pete Forsyth <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > As the panel moderator, I felt there was a rather strong consensus (from > > the various communication channels -- wiki pages, blog & Facebook posts > and > > discussions, and the panel) that went a bit beyond what Robert said > (which > > is certainly an important piece. > > > > A number of people also felt that, while the Elsevier deal may have been > a > > good one, there may also have been better ways to communicate it -- and > > specifically, ways to place restrictions on the kind of language > (entities > > like) Elsevier could use around the Wikimedia trademarks. I believe this > > was all absorbed by Wikipedia Library staff, and I have no doubt that > > future announcements will be better suited to Wikimedia values. > > > > I agree with Lodewijk that strong consensus would be needed to overturn > an > > existing contract. Please note also that at least six Wikimedia > volunteers > > would be impacted if Wikimedia were to renege on its contract: those who > > have gained access to Elsevier Science Direct through the program, and > are > > presumably doing good Wikipedia work as a result. Have you checked in > with > > them, or looked at their work, Milos? > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Elsevier_ScienceDirect > > > > -Pete > > [[User:Peteforsyth]] > > > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Robert Fernandez < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > "No, WMF shouldn't morally support Elsevier by having any relation with > > > them." > > > > > > This was debated extensively last September. The opinion of many, > > > including myself, was that the WMF's primary commitment should be to > the > > > encyclopedia and providing editors and readers the resources to improve > > the > > > encyclopedia, not making a moral stand against Elsevier by withdrawing > > > those resources. > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 5:01 PM, Milos Rancic <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > On Sun, Feb 14, 2016 at 10:58 PM, Gerard Meijssen > > > > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Anyone can use Sci-Hub. Officially you cannot, legally you should > > not. > > > > The > > > > > WMF makes it possible for those who want to use Elsevier. > > > > > > > > > > No problem; anyone can use Sci-Hub. Move on. > > > > > > > > Dear Gerard, > > > > > > > > You are again ignoring the point intentionally. > > > > > > > > No, WMF shouldn't morally support Elsevier by having any relation > with > > > > them. > > > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > Milos > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > New messages to: [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > New messages to: [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
