There pure costs shouldn't be the main or only argument. What does the movement pay, for what? How are the goals of the movement served by Wikimania or other conventions? The better we understand that the better our conventions are. For example, for the programme of the Wikimedia Conference Netherlands I looked at the strategy and annual plan of the association. It gives you a good feeling to see that our conference was already in line with that. :-) Kind regards Ziko
2016-02-13 7:52 GMT+01:00 David Goodman <[email protected]>: > Rather, we should spend more, possibly several times as much. We need much > wider participation, both for Wikimania and for regional conferences, and > the only practical way to achieve that is to pay full expenses for all > regular participants who want to attend. It should not be an elite event. > The WMF is running a considerable surplus, and we should spend 5 or 10 % > of it on interpersonal live access to each other. > > On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 6:02 PM, John Mark Vandenberg <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> On Thu, Feb 11, 2016 at 2:28 AM, Itzik - Wikimedia Israel >> <[email protected]> wrote: >> > If we want to talk about the cost of Wikimania it will be great if the >> WMF >> > and the local team will share the costs. >> > >> > Until now Wikimania London didn't published anything: >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2014/Budget >> > >> > And also Mexico: >> > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimania_2015/Budget >> > >> > Maybe I missed something, but it's strange that such discussion takes >> place >> > without a real budget breakdown. To summarize 2 huge event to "1$ million >> > USD" does not make sense. >> >> I agree. Without public data, how can there be an informed public >> consultation. >> >> I've asked for similar data at: >> >> >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants_talk:IdeaLab/Towards_a_New_Wikimania#Analysis_on_repeat_funded_attendees >> >> -- >> John Vandenberg >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines >> New messages to: [email protected] >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> >> > > > > -- > David Goodman > > DGG at the enWP > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:DGG > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:DGG > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > New messages to: [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines New messages to: [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
