This is exactly why we need "Stuctured Data for Commons" and I for one was really disappointed to see it get tossed onto the back burner yet again: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/2015_Community_Wishlist_Survey/Archive#Structured_metadata_for_Commons
On Thu, Dec 3, 2015 at 6:35 AM, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> wrote: > Hoi, > It is. I am one of the people who agitated for Commons to be created in the > first place. I care about Commons and I hate the lack of usability with a > passion. Wikimedians on the other hand cost us additional money in order to > cope with Commons. > > What is your problem in acknowledging that using Commons is a big problem. > It is so bad that I typically refuse to add categories because they are not > easy to guess and therefore to apply. At some stage it is at least what I > hoped for, a repository for use for WMF projects. As a re-use facility it > is a failure. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 3 December 2015 at 00:09, Gnangarra <[email protected]> wrote: > > > There is a big difference here between an individual and the Wikimedia > > Foundation using Wikimedia Commons > > > > On 3 December 2015 at 07:03, Gerard Meijssen <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > Hoi, > > > There is an excuse. You may know those categories, I do not and I do > not > > > even try to find images in Commons for my blog. It is too hard to find > > > things. The search is neither efficient nor intuitive. > > > > > > For me Commons and Wikisource could do with an abundant sprinkling of > > > improved user interface. It is geared up for people adding data not > > really > > > for people using data. The approach is way too dogmatic as well. So no, > > > thank you. > > > Thanks, > > > GerardM > > > > > > On 2 December 2015 at 23:56, Gnangarra <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > 29 million photos, 30 seconds type category:coffee cups > > > > https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Coffee_cups 90 photos > > > > subcategory cups of coffee a further 700 images not really difficult > to > > > > find or navigate to what you need. > > > > > > > > There is no excuse for fundraising team to not use a Free licensed > > > > photograph and message to the community they are suppose to be trying > > to > > > > support and promote either on commons-l or here sayo=ing they need an > > > image > > > > of a cup of coffee from above would have got them even more to choose > > > from, > > > > > > > > On 2 December 2015 at 22:53, Marc A. Pelletier <[email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > On 15-12-02 09:46 AM, John Mark Vandenberg wrote: > > > > > > It wouldnt have been hard to make a free photo of a coffee, or > even > > > > > > create a derivative of this lovely CC0 SVG > > > > > > > > > > I don't think I'm concerned about the foundation fundraising staff > > > > > deciding to use a stock photo - expedience and all, but I'm pretty > > sure > > > > > that had they known about that (absolutely gorgeous) SVG, they'd > have > > > > > used it. > > > > > > > > > > ... which I guess is my way of saying "OMG commons actually *sucks* > > for > > > > > reuse because it's so hard to find stuff on it that many people no > > > > > longer even try!!1!one!". > > > > > > > > > > -- Marc > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > GN. > > > > President Wikimedia Australia > > > > WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra > > > > Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > [email protected] > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > GN. > > President Wikimedia Australia > > WMAU: http://www.wikimedia.org.au/wiki/User:Gnangarra > > Photo Gallery: http://gnangarra.redbubble.com > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
