True, but not everyone reads the VP on each project: take Wikidata for example. There are a fair few people who don't read it at all! A mass message would be better, an email or banner to people better still - but it depends on who exactly you want the opinion of! "Community" is a big term :-)
Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 7 October 2015 at 15:35, Steinsplitter Wiki <[email protected]> wrote: > You can post on VP that there is such a poll on :m: > > Common sense. > > > From: [email protected] > > Date: Wed, 7 Oct 2015 14:39:11 +0100 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by Signpost > > > > Steinsplitter, with respect (and I mean that!), I don't think a poll on > > meta would be enough. For something this big, either we get the views of > > the community as a whole - including those who don't read meta - or we > come > > up with another way (eg a committee). A small poll on meta would not be > > representative enough. > > > > Richard Symonds > > Wikimedia UK > > 0207 065 0992 > > > > Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and > > Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered > > Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A > 4LT. > > United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia > > movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who > > operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). > > > > *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control > > over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* > > > > On 7 October 2015 at 12:04, Steinsplitter Wiki < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > > > A small poll on meta would be enough. > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > Date: Tue, 6 Oct 2015 19:14:59 +0000 > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by > Signpost > > > > > > > > If you want the views of everyone on every project... then yes, I do. > > > > > > > > On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 at 20:14 MF-Warburg <[email protected]> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Do you really believe the community consists of several 100.000 > people? > > > > > Am 06.10.2015 21:01 schrieb "Joseph Fox" <[email protected] > >: > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 6 Oct 2015 at 17:27 Steinsplitter Wiki < > > > > > > [email protected]> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > To be honest: I am not surprised at all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Wikimedia Foundation is becoming moor and moor centralized. > They no > > > > > > longer > > > > > > > care about the community, even if there is huge community > consensus > > > > > about > > > > > > > something. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why is there a secret committee needed? It is easier to ask the > > > > > > community. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > While I agree it's important to sort things with the community > (since > > > > > that > > > > > > is the lifeblood of the projects), are you seriously suggesting > that > > > it's > > > > > > easier to gauge the consensus of hundreds of thousands of people > > > rather > > > > > > than make a decision in a smaller committee, secret or otherwise? > > > > > > > > > > > > Joe > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am disappointed > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Sat, 3 Oct 2015 18:13:13 -0400 > > > > > > > > From: [email protected] > > > > > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Wikimania 2017 Montreal - scooped by > > > Signpost > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Evidently the Signpost has scooped the WMF by revealing that > > > Montreal > > > > > > has > > > > > > > > been selected for the 2017 Wikimania host city in a secret > > > process > > > > > that > > > > > > > > completed this past August. [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It seems like the community could have been looped into this > new > > > > > method > > > > > > > > before it was a done deal. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~Nathan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > [1] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2015-09-30/News_and_notes > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > > < > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/[email protected] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > > > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > > [email protected] > > > > > < > > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/[email protected] > > > > > > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > > > <mailto:[email protected] > ?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > > [email protected] > > > > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
