El 05/10/2015 a las 04:18 a.m., Josh Lim escribió:
Pavel, with all do respect, I HIGHLY doubt there’s anything to celebrate here.
+1
While I agree that the Wikimania process is broken, no one would’ve thought
that the way we’d go about fixing that process would be handing that process
over to a small group of people who can easily say “Oh! This doesn’t
work—let’s throw it out.” For goodness’ sake, James claimed they talked to
people—our question then is who did they talk to? They certainly didn’t talk
to us, and there DEFINITELY was no discussion taking place on Meta or anywhere
else!
A lot of work was poured into the Manila and Perth bids, and at least for us
here in Manila, we’re doing so because it was suggested (by Ellie,
nonetheless!) to do so for the 2017 bid process. If you seriously, seriously
think that we will stand idly by and see this process be rammed down our
throats while at the same time being advised that all our work is meaningless
at this point, you’ve really got to be kidding us.
With all due respect to the Montreal team, AFAIK the place where "the
community" looks for information about future bids for Wikimania is
Meta. So far, I could see only Perth and Bali. Well, until James
deleted what was posted there reflecting this decision -and the best
part is the edit reason: */Correct this to not lie. Oy./*
So yeah, if you think your idea of meaningful change is top-down diktat by a
group of people who say “Enough is enough!” but without considering not just
the open nature of our movement and the inherent need for discussion to take
place before such drastic moves are taken, then I’m sorry, but this is utter
hypocrisy. You can’t have your cake by saying that we should value open
communication between stakeholders in a movement like Wikimedia, and at the
same time eat it too by saying that top-down decision making is acceptable when
a process is broken.
Simply, rename the whole thing to Wikimedia, Inc. and problem solved.
That way you can /fuck the community /because TBH, you just don't care.
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