I guess I'm not clear on whether you're asking about the Fundraising targets or the WLM/WMIT targets, or both. Can you clarify?
My understanding from this email chain is that there will be a deconfliction of banner space via better scheduling next year. I think that someone suggested setting up a calendar to track banner use, which might also be helpful. I think I'll step out of this conversation for the moment, and let the stakeholders take it from here. Pine On Fri, Sep 4, 2015 at 4:25 AM, Peter Southwood < [email protected]> wrote: > One of the basic tenets of health and safety, is that if you have a near > miss incident, it should be analysed the same way that a fatal incident > would be investigated. Not to apportion blame, even if it is due, but so > that the same situation can be avoided in the future. Organisations that > fail to do this are doomed to repeat their mistakes, not necessarily by the > same people, who may well have learned, but often by other departments, > where the people did not get the opportunity to learn by the mistake. > Refusal to answer reasonable and legitimate questions by stakeholders often > leads to accusations of conspiracy and bad faith and can end in the local > demagogues, of which we have an adequate supply, inciting the torch and > pitchfork brigade. Things may go downhill at this point. > Cheers, > Peter > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Pine W > Sent: Friday, 04 September 2015 8:43 AM > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments in > Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising > > Yes, I think it is the case that Fundraising and other organizations (like > the WLM coordinators, Wikimedia Italia, and Community Resources / FDC) were > working from different playbooks. But now that Fundraising has agreed to > change their plans, I think we should give them some breathing room, > especially because they say that banner scheduling will be coordinated next > year. > > > > Pine > > > On Thu, Sep 3, 2015 at 11:24 PM, Peter Southwood < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Who set the targets that will now not be met, how were they decided, > > and when were they set? I must assume that WLM annual project was not > > taken into consideration by these planners. > > Cheers, > > P > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto: > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Pine W > > Sent: Thursday, 03 September 2015 10:51 PM > > To: Wikimedia Mailing List > > Subject: Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wiki Loves Monuments] Wiki Loves Monuments > > in Italy largely blocked by WMF fundraising > > > > I just want to respond to this point in particular: > > > > "Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first time > > in at least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting a > > target. The team will pick up extra work in October to make up for > > work missed in September. > > It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there will > > need to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up for > > missing the September target." > > > > It was somewhat courageous for WMF Fundraising to change its schedule > > and forecast missing a target as a result. Two quotes seem appropriate > > in the context of this conversation, particularly regarding WMF's > > taking the community's priorities into account and absorbing the risks > > to its plans that come with changing to accommodate WLM: > > > > "Courage is what it takes to stand up and speak; courage is also what > > it takes to sit down and listen." -- Winston Churchill. > > > > "Either you decide to stay in the shallow end of the pool or you go > > out in the ocean." --Christopher Reeve > > > > Thanks Megan and all. > > > > Pine > > > > > > On Mon, Aug 31, 2015 at 12:29 PM, Mathias Damour < > > [email protected] > > > wrote: > > > > > Le 31/08/2015 13:02, Megan Hernandez a écrit : > > > > > >> Postponing the Italian fundraising campaign means for the first > > >> time in at least 4 years, the fundraising team will not be meeting > > >> a target. The team will pick up extra work in October to make up > > >> for work missed in September. > > >> It's not possible to do two months of work in one month, so there > > >> will need to be adjustments later throughout the year to make up > > >> for missing the September target. > > >> > > > > > > The WMF team is without any doubt very professional in "meeting its > > > target" and in smooth communication. > > > > > > We should also understand that despite the huge growth of the WMF > > > these last few years, it may feel an inferiority complex and think > > > it has a backlog to catch up compared to some much richer > > > neighbouring companies in the San Francisco Bay ! I guess they > > > roughly think: "Why should we have 15 time less employees than > > > Twitter !" That's why raising up the fundraising targets can be more > > > important than to facilitate a WLM event in just one not-so-big > > > country ! :-P > > > > > > Nevertheless it still give the impression of taking the word-wide > > > donors, the volunteers and the other entities (chapters) for > > > pawns/chess pieces that you may move or stop whenever you want or > need... > > > Maybe the ones to blame are the neighbouring internet companies for > > > setting a bad example to the WMF... :-\ > > > > > > -- > > > Mathias Damour > > > [[User:Astirmays]] > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > > [email protected] > > > Unsubscribe: > > > https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > ----- > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4409/10565 - Release Date: > > 09/03/15 > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2015.0.6086 / Virus Database: 4409/10572 - Release Date: 09/04/15 > > > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
