https is generaly increasing privacy of the users. http can be "listen" by
anyone. It is like using walkie-talkie - anyone with radio-scanner can
listen :-)





2015-03-10 13:26 GMT+01:00 Comet styles <[email protected]>:

> for an organization taking on the NSA  for "spying"..why are we using
> https? doesn't that show that we are already scared of them and
> running with our tail between our legs?
>
> On 3/10/15, Dariusz Jemielniak <[email protected]> wrote:
> > this sounds exactly as a thing we, as a movement, need institutional
> > support of WMF for. Thanks for doing that.
> >
> > dariusz "pundit"
> >
> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Michelle Paulson <
> [email protected]>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hi All,
> >>
> >> I’m writing to let you know that today the Wikimedia Foundation[1] is
> >> filing suit against the National Security Agency
> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency>, the
> Department
> >> of
> >> Justice <
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Justice
> >> >,
> >> and the U.S. Attorney General
> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Attorney_General>[2] in
> order
> >> to challenge certain mass surveillance practices carried out by the U.S.
> >> government. We believe these practices are impinging the freedom to
> learn,
> >> inquire, and explore on Wikimedia sites.
> >>
> >> Since the 2013 mass surveillance disclosures, we’ve heard concerns from
> >> the
> >> community about privacy on Wikipedia. This lawsuit is a step towards
> >> addressing the community's justified concerns. We believe that the
> >> surveillance methods being employed by the NSA under the authority of
> the
> >> FISA
> >> Amendments Act
> >> <
> >>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act_of_1978_Amendments_Act_of_2008
> >> >
> >> negatively impact our users' ability and willingness to participate in
> our
> >> projects. Today, we fight back.
> >>
> >> An op-ed
> >> <
> >>
> http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/opinion/stop-spying-on-wikipedia-users.html?_r=0
> >> >
> >> by Lila and Jimmy about the lawsuit, and Wikimedia's stance on
> government
> >> surveillance, appeared in The New York Times this morning. Additionally,
> >> we
> >> just published a blog post
> >> <https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/03/10/wikimedia-v-nsa/> with more
> >> information about the suit. (The post will also up on Meta for
> >> translation).
> >>
> >> Best,
> >>
> >>
> >> Michelle Paulson
> >>
> >> Senior Legal Counsel
> >>
> >> Wikimedia Foundation
> >>
> >> [email protected]
> >>
> >> [1] We are being represented by the American Civil Liberties Union
> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union> (ACLU).
> >> Other plaintiffs include The National Association of Criminal Defense
> >> Lawyers <http://www.nacdl.org/>, Human Rights Watch
> >> <http://www.hrw.org/>, Amnesty
> >> International USA <http://www.amnestyusa.org/>, Pen American Center
> >> <https://www.pen.org/>, Global Fund for Women
> >> <http://www.globalfundforwomen.org/>, The Nation Magazine
> >> <http://www.thenation.com/>, The Rutherford Institute
> >> <https://www.rutherford.org/>, and Washington Office on Latin America
> >> <http://www.wola.org/>.
> >>
> >> [2] Other named defendants include: Michael Rogers
> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_S._Rogers>, in his official
> >> capacity
> >> as Director of the National Security Agency
> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_the_National_Security_Agency
> >
> >> and Chief of the Central Security Service; Office of the Director of
> >> National Intelligence
> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_National_Intelligence>;
> James
> >> Clapper <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Clapper>, in his
> official
> >> capacity as Director of National Intelligence; and Eric Holder
> >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Holder>, in his official capacity
> >> as Attorney
> >> General <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Attorney_General>
> of
> >> the United States.
> >>
> >>
> >> *NOTICE: This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you
> >> have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the
> >> mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation and for
> legal/ethical
> >> reasons, I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for,
> >> community
> >> members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For
> more
> >> on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer
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> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > __________________________
> > prof. dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak
> > kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego
> > i centrum badawczego CROW
> > Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego
> > http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl
> >
> > członek Akademii Młodych Uczonych Polskiej Akademii Nauk
> > członek Komitetu Polityki Naukowej MNiSW
> >
> > Wyszła pierwsza na świecie etnografia Wikipedii "Common Knowledge? An
> > Ethnography of Wikipedia" (2014, Stanford University Press) mojego
> > autorstwa http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=24010
> >
> > Recenzje
> > Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml
> > Pacific Standard:
> >
> http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/
> > Motherboard:
> http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia
> > The Wikipedian:
> > http://thewikipedian.net/2014/10/10/dariusz-jemielniak-common-knowledge
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