https is generaly increasing privacy of the users. http can be "listen" by anyone. It is like using walkie-talkie - anyone with radio-scanner can listen :-)
2015-03-10 13:26 GMT+01:00 Comet styles <[email protected]>: > for an organization taking on the NSA for "spying"..why are we using > https? doesn't that show that we are already scared of them and > running with our tail between our legs? > > On 3/10/15, Dariusz Jemielniak <[email protected]> wrote: > > this sounds exactly as a thing we, as a movement, need institutional > > support of WMF for. Thanks for doing that. > > > > dariusz "pundit" > > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 8:53 AM, Michelle Paulson < > [email protected]> > > wrote: > > > >> Hi All, > >> > >> I’m writing to let you know that today the Wikimedia Foundation[1] is > >> filing suit against the National Security Agency > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Security_Agency>, the > Department > >> of > >> Justice < > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Department_of_Justice > >> >, > >> and the U.S. Attorney General > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Attorney_General>[2] in > order > >> to challenge certain mass surveillance practices carried out by the U.S. > >> government. We believe these practices are impinging the freedom to > learn, > >> inquire, and explore on Wikimedia sites. > >> > >> Since the 2013 mass surveillance disclosures, we’ve heard concerns from > >> the > >> community about privacy on Wikipedia. This lawsuit is a step towards > >> addressing the community's justified concerns. We believe that the > >> surveillance methods being employed by the NSA under the authority of > the > >> FISA > >> Amendments Act > >> < > >> > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foreign_Intelligence_Surveillance_Act_of_1978_Amendments_Act_of_2008 > >> > > >> negatively impact our users' ability and willingness to participate in > our > >> projects. Today, we fight back. > >> > >> An op-ed > >> < > >> > http://www.nytimes.com/2015/03/10/opinion/stop-spying-on-wikipedia-users.html?_r=0 > >> > > >> by Lila and Jimmy about the lawsuit, and Wikimedia's stance on > government > >> surveillance, appeared in The New York Times this morning. Additionally, > >> we > >> just published a blog post > >> <https://blog.wikimedia.org/2015/03/10/wikimedia-v-nsa/> with more > >> information about the suit. (The post will also up on Meta for > >> translation). > >> > >> Best, > >> > >> > >> Michelle Paulson > >> > >> Senior Legal Counsel > >> > >> Wikimedia Foundation > >> > >> [email protected] > >> > >> [1] We are being represented by the American Civil Liberties Union > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_Civil_Liberties_Union> (ACLU). > >> Other plaintiffs include The National Association of Criminal Defense > >> Lawyers <http://www.nacdl.org/>, Human Rights Watch > >> <http://www.hrw.org/>, Amnesty > >> International USA <http://www.amnestyusa.org/>, Pen American Center > >> <https://www.pen.org/>, Global Fund for Women > >> <http://www.globalfundforwomen.org/>, The Nation Magazine > >> <http://www.thenation.com/>, The Rutherford Institute > >> <https://www.rutherford.org/>, and Washington Office on Latin America > >> <http://www.wola.org/>. > >> > >> [2] Other named defendants include: Michael Rogers > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_S._Rogers>, in his official > >> capacity > >> as Director of the National Security Agency > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_the_National_Security_Agency > > > >> and Chief of the Central Security Service; Office of the Director of > >> National Intelligence > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Director_of_National_Intelligence>; > James > >> Clapper <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_R._Clapper>, in his > official > >> capacity as Director of National Intelligence; and Eric Holder > >> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eric_Holder>, in his official capacity > >> as Attorney > >> General <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Attorney_General> > of > >> the United States. > >> > >> > >> *NOTICE: This message may be confidential or legally privileged. If you > >> have received it by accident, please delete it and let us know about the > >> mistake. As an attorney for the Wikimedia Foundation and for > legal/ethical > >> reasons, I cannot give legal advice to, or serve as a lawyer for, > >> community > >> members, volunteers, or staff members in their personal capacity. For > more > >> on what this means, please see our legal disclaimer > >> <https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Legal_Disclaimer>.* > >> _______________________________________________ > >> Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > >> https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > >> [email protected] > >> Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > >> <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > __________________________ > > prof. dr hab. Dariusz Jemielniak > > kierownik katedry Zarządzania Międzynarodowego > > i centrum badawczego CROW > > Akademia Leona Koźmińskiego > > http://www.crow.alk.edu.pl > > > > członek Akademii Młodych Uczonych Polskiej Akademii Nauk > > członek Komitetu Polityki Naukowej MNiSW > > > > Wyszła pierwsza na świecie etnografia Wikipedii "Common Knowledge? An > > Ethnography of Wikipedia" (2014, Stanford University Press) mojego > > autorstwa http://www.sup.org/book.cgi?id=24010 > > > > Recenzje > > Forbes: http://www.forbes.com/fdc/welcome_mjx.shtml > > Pacific Standard: > > > http://www.psmag.com/navigation/books-and-culture/killed-wikipedia-93777/ > > Motherboard: > http://motherboard.vice.com/read/an-ethnography-of-wikipedia > > The Wikipedian: > > http://thewikipedian.net/2014/10/10/dariusz-jemielniak-common-knowledge > > _______________________________________________ > > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > > [email protected] > > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > > > -- > Cometstyles > > _______________________________________________ > Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines > [email protected] > Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, > <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe> > -- Tomek "Polimerek" Ganicz http://pl.wikimedia.org/wiki/User:Polimerek http://www.ganicz.pl/poli/ http://www.cbmm.lodz.pl/work.php?id=29&title=tomasz-ganicz _______________________________________________ Wikimedia-l mailing list, guidelines at: https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailing_lists/Guidelines [email protected] Unsubscribe: https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-l, <mailto:[email protected]?subject=unsubscribe>
